Timothy wrote: At the moment we are just reinforcing the perception that Arsenal is an also ran club. At some point you need to bid big and follow it all the way through, even if you end up paying more than you'd like, cos that's what big clubs do to land big targets. And all this conspiracy stuff is nonsense and tedious. Switch your brains on and stop posting bullshit.
At the moment we are just reinforcing the perception that Arsenal is an also ran club. At some point you need to bid big and follow it all the way through, even if you end up paying more than you'd like, cos that's what big clubs do to land big targets.
And all this conspiracy stuff is nonsense and tedious. Switch your brains on and stop posting bullshit.
Eh? You basically agree that Wenger isn't serious about bidding and he's just taking the mickey, if he wants the player and the money is available he should not stuff about he should just buy the fucking player and stand by his decision! But this is Wenger, a man who would walk into a high class brothel and ask for a discount..... And then you say it's a conspiracy, make you mind up Tim.
I didn't "basically" say what you're saying I said, nor did I say it's a conspiracy, so prob best if you try again. Many thanks.
Bold Tone wrote: Think we all know each other's opinion now and the only options left seem to be status quo or the Suaz monster. Status quo is for another thread so if we get him, do you think we will make a profit when we sell him or will he be Wenger's biggest monetary loss as, i think, we all accept he is a nomad who will, more than likely, be gone in a couple of years max.
Think we all know each other's opinion now and the only options left seem to be status quo or the Suaz monster. Status quo is for another thread so if we get him, do you think we will make a profit when we sell him or will he be Wenger's biggest monetary loss as, i think, we all accept he is a nomad who will, more than likely, be gone in a couple of years max.
It's like everything it depends on how he does Tone innit....... If we buy him and he flops Wenger will be the biggest cunt under the sun- Not even Capi will be able to make up excuses for him. If he does well- IE keeps his head down keeps his spittle to himself talks to black people and scores a few goals we might make a few quid on him. BTW I don't foresee this second scenario.
Burnwinter wrote: First para: we need to land Suarez at this point, unless we have a truly amazing plan B that includes a real marquee name. We don't need to go straight to £50m to "force" Liverpool's hand, though. That wouldn't necessarily force anything at this point. It's all about timing.
First para: we need to land Suarez at this point, unless we have a truly amazing plan B that includes a real marquee name. We don't need to go straight to £50m to "force" Liverpool's hand, though. That wouldn't necessarily force anything at this point. It's all about timing.
Oh I agree. No problem with us haggling as hard as we can. But we have to be prepared to follow this all the way through, even if we eventually have to pay more than we think he's worth. Go big or go home.
Biggus wrote: Bold Tone wrote: Think we all know each other's opinion now and the only options left seem to be status quo or the Suaz monster. Status quo is for another thread so if we get him, do you think we will make a profit when we sell him or will he be Wenger's biggest monetary loss as, i think, we all accept he is a nomad who will, more than likely, be gone in a couple of years max. It's like everything it depends on how he does Tone innit....... If we buy him and he flops Wenger will be the biggest cunt under the sun- Not even Capi will be able to make up excuses for him. If he does well- IE keeps his head down keeps his spittle to himself talks to black people and scores a few goals we might make a few quid on him. BTW I don't foresee this second scenario.
Would you still prefer Torres rather than taking a "risk" on Suarez?
Timothy wrote: Burnwinter wrote: First para: we need to land Suarez at this point, unless we have a truly amazing plan B that includes a real marquee name. We don't need to go straight to £50m to "force" Liverpool's hand, though. That wouldn't necessarily force anything at this point. It's all about timing. Oh I agree. No problem with us haggling as hard as we can. But we have to be prepared to follow this all the way through, even if we eventually have to pay more than we think he's worth. Go big or go home.
At this point, Arsenal need Suarez to force it from his end.
Also endorsed.
Basically the only way we can screw up this Suarez deal now and retain our dignity is if we turn our attention to a player of Fabregas's calibre and land him. A bench-warmer like Sanchez isn't going to cut it even though he's good. Our reputation's on the line here.
We could always sign Rooney...
Dignity wise that'd do it. I don't want him though, nor do I particularly want Suarez, but we've been over that and the reasons why some do or don't.
Yeah, that would work. But we would have to outbid Chelsea by the looks of it.
Timothy wrote: I didn't "basically" say what you're saying I said, nor did I say it's a conspiracy, so prob best if you try again. Many thanks.
Its there in black and white Tim.
Timothy wrote: At the moment we are just reinforcing the perception that Arsenal is an also ran club. At some point you need to bid big and follow it all the way through, even if you end up paying more than you'd like, cos that's what big clubs do to land big targets.
You agree that Wenger is fucking about not making a serious bid for the player.
Timothy wrote: And all this conspiracy stuff is nonsense and tedious. Switch your brains on and stop posting bullshit.
But you disagree that he's fucking about and we should accept his bid on face value?
I hold the wild and irrational belief that we are seriously interested in signing Suarez but want to get him at a price that's not ludicrously inflated because of circumstances.
I agree that at some stage in the process we're going to have to go higher than the £40m + £1 if we want to push this through.
There is also the argument that £50m for Suarez is too big a gamble. I was already wobbling at paying £40m for the psycho.
Liverpool are just full of it, briefing journalists left, right and center.
They'll cave soon enough; Liverpool will say they have got a fantastic deal, Arsenal will say nothing, the world will turn and the grass will be still be green.
It's unthinkable that Arsenal would have added the £1 to their offer for anything other than activating a release clause. They would have been encouraged to do so. An inquest is needed if the intelligence on the clause was wrong but seriously we didn't bid for kicks so that if Liverpool tired of the clown said yes, we would back off and say we weren't serious, this was all a play on the fans sentiments at this moment.
Irish gunner wrote: Would you still prefer Torres rather than taking a "risk" on Suarez?
I'd prefer Chamakh to that a dirty racist asshole like Suarez.
If the rumor saying the clause can only be triggered by a CL club is right this could take a while. Wish Madrid would just buy the racist tomorrow. 🙁
Biggus wrote: Irish gunner wrote: Would you still prefer Torres rather than taking a "risk" on Suarez? I'd prefer Chamakh to that a dirty racist asshole like Suarez.
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Sure.
Rex wrote: If the rumor saying the clause can only be triggered by a CL club is right this could take a while. Wish Madrid would just buy the racist tomorrow. 🙁
Ah, that's interesting, who broke the rumour?
Rohit wrote: It's unthinkable that Arsenal would have added the £1 to their offer for anything other than activating a release clause. They would have been encouraged to do so. An inquest is needed if the intelligence on the clause was wrong but seriously we didn't bid for kicks so that if Liverpool tired of the clown said yes, we would back off and say we weren't serious, this was all a play on the fans sentiments at this moment.
Problem is, Liverpool thinks we are taking the piss with that 1dollar.
