Some players can get u loads of goals given the right service; they vary in quality from Bent, Inzaghi, to Van Nistelrooy, Gomez, Dzeko etc

There are others than can get u goals AND make the team play better: they also vary in quality from Suarez to Henry, (Brazilian) Ronaldo, Messi etc Players of this ilk are generally more highly rated(cost more money to buy them). We are more in need of these sort of players.

How come Liverpool played better when he was suspended?

Nothing left to play for , natural progression of a side under construction etc

Are they not a far better team with him in the side?

Bold Tone wrote:

We are back to Suarez is no Henry!

😆

Coutinho deputised for him as SS and all of a sudden all the other attacking players seem so much better as they were actually getting the ball passed to them.

[size=large]Luis Suarez pins hopes on Premier League settling Liverpool-Arsenal stand-off [/size]

Luis Suarez would be happy for the Premier League to step in and settle his contract-clause dispute with Liverpool such is the conviction of the player and his agent, Pere Guardiola, that they are in the right.

The League may offer to mediate in the row between Liverpool and Arsenal, and the player’s camp are understood to welcome independent arbitration stressing that both verbal and written assurances were given in the renegotiation of the Uruguayan striker’s contract last summer.

Guardiola maintains that it is Liverpool who have changed their position on allowing Suarez to leave for a bid of over £40m. Arsenal are confident that the Merseyside club will ultimately allow them to speak to Suarez and believe they are currently stalling in the hope that other clubs enter the race.

Liverpool would prefer to sell to someone outside the Premier League and have been frustrated by Real Madrid’s apparent lack of interest. Real have told their young strikers Jese Rodriguez and Alvaro Morata that no more forwards will be bought this summer, leaving their path clear to the first team.

Real showed an interest in Suarez earlier in the summer and believe personal terms with the forward would be quickly agreed. But they were also made aware of the buy-out clause and baulked at the £40m price tag. The Real president, Florentino Perez, would prefer to concentrate on raising the necessary funds to sign Gareth Bale this summer or next year.

Bale fits the profile of an ideal Perez signing with the sort of commercial appeal that Suarez does not have. Madrid would take 50 per cent of Bale’s image rights, an operation that would not be as lucrative in Suarez’s case.

Missing out definitively on the Tottenham forward this summer and any continuation of Wednesday’s lack-lustre pre-season form could yet see Real reconsider on Suarez. The Spanish side were unimpressive in their second pre-season friendly against Lyons, scrambling to a 2-2 draw and if their form does not pick up, attitudes towards Suarez could change.

Zinedine Zidane, new coach Carlo Ancelotti’s assistant but already having a major say in the way the team plays and the players they look to sign, wants the club to put its trust not just in the youngsters but in French forward Karim Benzema.

However, Benzema failed to score in the 6-0 win over Bournemouth at the weekend and was poor against Lyons in a new-look front three, playing to the left of Cristiano Ronaldo.

Asked about Arsenal’s bid for Suarez, Chelsea manager, Jose Mourinho, said tonight after his team’s 8-1 win over Indonesia All-Stars in Jakarta: “I have no idea of the situation and no idea of the contractual situation of Luis Suarez but if Arsenal has economic potential to buy and the manager decides he is the perfect buy for them, it is normal to make a big offer. I have no idea how it will go.”

On Merseyside, former Liverpool striker John Aldridge joined the chorus of fans accusing Suarez of a “massive lack of loyalty” by his desire to leave the club. Aldridge said Suarez owed a debt of gratitude to the club for sticking by him after his racism and biting controversies.

He said: “There’s a massive lack of loyalty there and especially the way Liverpool have stuck by Luis. Not everything’s all about money.

“It’s different with Luis Suarez because of the positions he’s put Liverpool in over the last couple of years and they’ve stuck by him. The fans have been loyal, the manager’s been loyal, his comrades have been loyal, and the hierarchy have been loyal. They’ve done everything in their power to back him up and he’s basically put a custard pie in everyone’s face.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/luis-suarez-pins-hopes-on-premier-league-settling-liverpoolarsenal-standoff-8732679.html

Dzeko is a target man and great with his back to goal. By definition he will make the team play better. He is a fantastic centre forward, just needs to play week in week out with the same players and he'd prove to be one of the very best strikers in the country.

I don't think he's quite as good as Suarez though, and I don't think he'd be much cheaper.

Bold Tone wrote:

Coutinho deputised for him as SS and all of a sudden all the other attacking players seem so much better as they were actually getting the ball passed to them.

So he's clearly holding them back.

They should therefore just ring Arsene and get the deal done.

C'mon Liverpool, u know it's the right thing to do.

Yup, we should buy Coutinho who would, in all probability, cost much less and improve the game of the other players.
On top of everything else, he has employed an idiot as his agent who got "played" by Liverpool.

Timothy wrote:

Dzeko is a target man and great with his back to goal. By definition he will make the team play better. Dzeko is a fantastic centre forward, he just needs to play week in week out with the same players and he'd prove to be one of the very best strikers in the country.

I don't think he's quite as good as Suarez though, and I don't think he'd be much cheaper.

Alot less mentally unhinged though.

Why the fuck did they ask Mourinho about our bid for Suarez? 😆

Bold Tone wrote:

Yup, we should buy Coutinho who would, in all probability, cost much less and improve the game of the other players.
On top of everything else, he has employed an idiot as his agent who got "played" by Liverpool.

These idiots probably thought the 40 million was a contractual release clause in case they didn;t reach the Champions League and signed a new contract, last year, based on that.

The agent is obviously building clients because his brother's stature is in the back of their minds.

Notice how many Suarez articles are from the Liverpool perspective rather than the Arsenal perspective. There is a desk open 24 by 7 at LFC that is feeding all the news to all the reporters.

Captain wrote:
Timothy wrote:

Dzeko is a target man and great with his back to goal. By definition he will make the team play better. Dzeko is a fantastic centre forward, he just needs to play week in week out with the same players and he'd prove to be one of the very best strikers in the country.

I don't think he's quite as good as Suarez though, and I don't think he'd be much cheaper.

Alot less mentally unhinged though.

Dzeko is a Volvo and Suarez is a TVR.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10203108/Liverpools-Luis-Suarez-will-be-making-a-mistake-if-he-joins-Arsenal-says-Brendan-Rodgers

Rodgers says we have to basically increase our offer considerably and then says he's not for sale. Ok....

Rodgers: "So why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest."

Eh, CL football for a start, better team, in a better financial position-can potentially offer more in wages etc,etc.

Captain wrote:

Why the fuck did they ask Mourinho about our bid for Suarez? 😆

They were probably hoping he has a dig at Wenger for spending big.

Yaya wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10203108/Liverpools-Luis-Suarez-will-be-making-a-mistake-if-he-joins-Arsenal-says-Brendan-Rodgers

Rodgers says we have to basically increase our offer considerably and then says he's not for sale. Ok....

Rodgers: "So why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest."

Eh, CL football for a start, better team, in a better financial position-can potentially offer more in wages etc,etc.

And a chance to play for Arsene Wenger as opposed to ... Brendan fucking Rodgers?

Liverpool finished 28 points behind United last season, we finished 16 off the pace. Losers are losers but if you were a betting man, who would you choose as a potential challenger with a couple of additions?

Captain wrote:

Liverpool finished 28 points behind United last season, we finished 16 off the pace. Losers are losers but if you were a betting man, who would you choose as a potential challenger with a couple of additions?

US!!!!!

Clrnc wrote:

Suarez's dribble and missed goal due to greed

So now we are going by chances created but failed to finish by a £55m player?
Do you want the top twenty amazing Gervinho dribbles that also came to nothing?

Clrnc wrote:

That's a great Szczesny gif.

Yaya wrote:

Rodgers: "So why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest."

Because its not the fucking 80s thats why.

Timothy wrote:

Dzeko is a target man and great with his back to goal. By definition he will make the team play better. He is a fantastic centre forward, just needs to play week in week out with the same players and he'd prove to be one of the very best strikers in the country.

I don't think he's quite as good as Suarez though, and I don't think he'd be much cheaper.

He's what Bendtner Chamakh and Girourd were supposed to be, of course he's a different type of player to a nippy dribbler but we need both types we need alternatives when the opposition parks the bus.

Rodgers: "So why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest."

😆 That's him down to a T!
Haven't given it any thought, whatsoever, as i do not expect Wenger to buy any major striker as i think he will stick with his man, Giroud, for a while but what are the chances of getting Dzeko and how much do you think would City sting us for him if we inquired?

Dzeko is better than Lewandowski in my opinion and I really don't know if we could turn his head, but I would definitely take him over Suarez. I think that type of striker is better for our collection of players. Plus he can finish left, right and with his head. I would fancy him for 25+ in the league here easily and we wouldn't lose much of the team cohesion.

But anyway, looks like we're going all in for bucky o'hare and will get him, so whatever.

What's up with Dzeko anyway, seems like he's happy to pick up his salary and sit on the bench.

Starts about 33-35 games a season; suppose that's enough for him.

He played a fair bit last season.

Burnwinter wrote:

Rodgers: "So why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest."

At this stage I just want us to end this, wrap it up, and shut those fools up

Suarez will flourish as we become a one man team with all the goals coming from him and nothing from the others.
He will keep dropping deep, occupying Cazorla's space and cramping his game so it becomes as peripheral as it is for Spain.
As for Podolski and Walcott, they can forget about one-twos, lofted passes or through balls so their stats are going to be headed one way.
The best they can hope for is become the equivalent of Sturridge at Liverpool or Adebayor at the spuds averaging about 5 goals each for the one season le cannibal is with us.
Team spirit will hit record breaking low levels and we will suffer when he is suspended as the other players will come in lacking match fitness.
Luckily, Wenger is such a tight arse, this scenario will not occur as we will not pay the £55m Liverpool want and are going to end up empty-handed.

Full quote from Rodgers:

"I know what we are trying to build and grow, so why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal?" the Liverpool manager said. "I am not sure that it adds up, to be honest. Arsenal has a wonderful history in its own right but Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. OK, we might not be in the Champions League and haven't been for a while now but our competitors have grown around us and we have to step up to the challenge now."

Arsenal qualified for the Champions League for a 14th season in succession last term whereas Liverpool are approaching a fourth consecutive campaign outside the European elite. But Rodgers insisted his debut season in charge at Anfield, which yielded 30 goals for Suárez, demonstrates why the striker would be wrong to move to north London.

He added: "Would it be a mistake for Luis to leave? 100%. The team was built around Luis last season. I made some big calls to get the team to work in a way to suit his strengths and it is no coincidence he had a great season apart from the end bit. We would love to have him to continue the next phase.

Well we certainly do qualify for the top competition, even if we don't win it.