---------------------Ibra
Ronaldo----------------------------Messi
------Schweinsteiger----Vidal
---------------------Pirlo
Alaba---Chiellini-----------Silva---Lahm
--------------------Neuer

----------------------Messi
Bale-------------------------------------Ronaldo
-----Schweinsteiger---Xavi---Iniesta
Alba-------Silva----------Ramos--------Lahm
---------------------Neuer

Excluding Messi and Ronaldo -

----------------------Ibra
Bale-------------------------------------Ribery/Reus
-----Schweinsteiger---Xavi---Iniesta
Alba-------Silva----------Ramos--------Lahm
---------------------Neuer

:hmm:

Not sure how I'd fashion a team out of them but these are the players I'd pick for my today's World XI excluding MessiRonaldo
Cavani Aguero Hazard Cesc Cazorla Yaya
Marcelo Kompany Chiellini Alves
Buffon

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Tell you're Irish bruv

Because of the abundance of Irish players in my XI?

-----------------Buffon
Lahm---Thiago Silva--Ramos---Marcelo
-----------Toure-----Schweinsteiger
-----------------Iniesta
Reus----------------------------Neymar
---------------Ibrahimovic

Irish gunner wrote:

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Tell you're Irish bruv

Because of the abundance of Irish players in my XI?

Yup. O'naldo and O'Messi.

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Tell you're Irish bruv

Irish gunner wrote:

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Tell you're Irish bruv

Because of the abundance of Irish players in my XI?

Cos it's in your name.

------------ Falcao ------------
Cavani --- Iniesta ---- Suarez
-- Schweinsteiger -- Toure --
Alba - Silva - Chiellini - Lahm
---------- Cech ----------------

Excluding Messi and Ronaldo:

----------- Van Persie ----------
Bale ------ Fabregas ---- Goetze
----- Busquets -- Toure --------
Marcelo - Koscielny - Silva - Lahm
------------ Buffon -------------

Plenty of awful cunts, but no morons.

This is 'my dream players to have in the team' currently:

Buffon - Alaba - Dante - Koscielny - Lahm - Vidal - Schweinsteiger - Cesc - Ribery - Ibrahimovic - Reus

This is more likely closer to the real 'best XI without CR and Messi' though:

Casillas - Marcelo - Silva - Ramos - Lahm - Busquets - Toure - Xavi - Iniesta - Ibrahimovic - Ribery

You could just stick a striker and a defender into Bayern's line-up and call it a day.

Time to go for a non-mainstream team

------------Handanovic
Piszczcek Koscielny Varane Alba
-----------Modric Bender
Gotze-------Hamsik---------Isco
--------------Falcao

-------------Neuer--------------
Lahm----Silva----Barzagli----Alaba
-Xavi--Martinez--Schweinsteiger-
----Bale--van Persie--Iniesta----

Also, if you add Ronaldo and Messi to a team excluding the 11 players you'd initially picked, which would be better?

For me, second team would be:

------------Buffon------------
Alves----Ramos--Dante----Alba
--------Vidal--Busquets--------
-Ribery----Fabregas----Ronaldo-
-----------Messi---------------

And would probably win.

Captain wrote:

You could just stick a striker and a defender into Bayern's line-up and call it a day.

That's almost exactly what i conjured up yesterday but decided that the result was too lame to post.

Another thing i noticed when trying to come up with the list is how there is a real shortage of quality right wingers.

If you're going 433 and sticking with genuine starting positions, it has to be Muller this season.