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Alex Song

Mirth

Klaus wrote:
Wenger banked on Diaby once Song was gone which is why we didn't get a replacement. He didn't sell Song because he banked on Diaby.

Yeah, that's how I see it. Just like how Ramsey replaced Fabregas last season.

Burnwinter

That seems to be the trajectory for a number of Wenger's summer deals. The dialogue for the devil and angel on his shoulder is something like this.

Devil: "Hmm, we have an opportunity to sell Player X for a decent fee. We should really do that."
Angel: "But Player X is a vital cog in the Arsenal machine!"
Devil: "Player X has been kind of a dick lately."
Angel: "You've known Player X since he was fifteen!"
Devil: "There's still time to replace him … and it is a very decent fee!"
Angel: "B—b—…"
Devil knocks Angel unconscious.
…
…
One day before transfer deadline. Angel awakens, groggy.
Angel: "Have we found a quality replacement for Player X?"
Devil: "Weeeeeell … not exactly …"
Angel: "There's only a day left! Who's available?!"
Devil: "Weeeeell … would you take Declining Ex-Manc Scum?"
Angel: "No!"
Devil: "Weeeeell … I guess there's always Player Y, right?"
Angel: "But he's a crock!"
Devil: "That's all in the past. He hasn't had a fatigue injury in at least six weeks."
Angel: "He's not that good either."
Devil: "He's a full international."
Angel: "They're ALL full internationals …"
Devil: "What about that day we played Hated Rivals M?"
Angel: thoughtfully "It's true. He was pretty good that day …"
Devil: "Good? He was fucking glorious!"
Angel: "True. But then he was out for three months—again. Look, I'm still not sure about—"
Devil: "Come on, it'll be fine. This transfer window's as good as over anyway. First round down the pub's on me ok?"
Angel: "Oh, ok."

Klaus

😆 You forgot the part where the Devil says: "Besides, we'll always have January" before he takes off laughing in an airplane, never to be seen again.

Burnwinter

True. At the end there he'd say "Don't worry, we'll sort it in January." and then Angel would say "Ok—but only if the player's super, super quality."

Anyway the upshot is that Wenger's got a problem where he's over-eager to sell and under-eager to buy.

lorddulaarsenal

Burnwinter wrote:
True. At the end there he'd say "Don't worry, we'll sort it in January." and then Angel would say "Ok—but only if the player's super, super quality."

Anyway the upshot is that Wenger's got a problem where he's over-eager to sell and under-eager to buy.

Maybe cos he recognises he's stuck with chamakh, Denilson, park, santos, bendtner, squillaci, arshavin and many more on the books

Claudius

Post of the week, Burns. Love it. 'first round's on me'.

Qwiss

Burnwinter wrote:
There was a lot of cruft about Song lacking application in training remember?

Personally I think it was a combination of all of the rumoured factors. Song's agent pushing his luck, Song getting cocky, Wenger having his usual desire to sell and feeling he had alternatives, and Wenger not being able to handle difficulties with his players beyond a certain point.

Conclusions: Wenger's judgement was off when he decided he had plausible alternatives, and he has shortcomings as a man manager. Song's a bit of a twat.

You're probably right one most of them but its a sad state the club can't manage to hold onto even moderately ambitious players. Song had solidified himself as a key player for us and frankly one of the better midfielders in the league. Asking for more money is something you deal with in such circumstances not reason to move him on.

Burnwinter

I agree. Think you and me were probably Song's biggest supporters on here, I was ropeable when he was sold.

dreamlord

Personally thought Song was a bit of an idiot, and I'm not talking about off the pitch.

Lukazan

Burnwinter wrote:
I agree. Think you and me were probably Song's biggest supporters on here, I was ropeable when he was sold.

I never got the issue with Song either and I was shocked and disappointed when he was sold.

sabret00the

Hmmm, Alex Song...

banduan

I liked Song last season. He gets too much stick really.

But we don't know why he was sold for certain. If it really is the failure to follow instructions, bad attitude in training etc there's no way back.

Bold Tone

A year on, nothing concrete about those rumours.
One thing, for sure, is that we miss his contribution ON THE PITCH.

Claudius

Was a rubbish sale. I was in the shower this morning thinking about what would've happened if we had kept RvP and Song.
It would be at least a three-way battle for the title, including us, if we'd just resisted the urge to destroy the team at the end of the summer. It really was not worth it, and will certainly look more so when we miss out on the champions league in June. Will suck for the supporters and players, but it's what the board and management deserve really.

Biggus

Burnwinter wrote:
I agree. Think you and me were probably Song's biggest supporters on here, I was ropeable when he was sold.

Really? I can't you imagine you giving yourself over to Biggusian Dionysian fits of ropeability, I thought you'd be more philosophical.

Rex

Hmm. I can totally see Burnsy in that state. He is a sensitive soul at heart. On the other hand, I AM surprised to hear you say that you have that emotional bond to a player. Not at all what I would have thought.

Biggus

Indeed, and especially one as average as Song, are you gay for him or something Burnsy?

Rex

It is neigh on impossible to feel strongly for the current lot, since they've only been here for just over a week, but which of our previous players have you felt heart broken when they left/retired?

Tony Montana

Lukazan wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
I agree. Think you and me were probably Song's biggest supporters on here, I was ropeable when he was sold.

I never got the issue with Song either and I was shocked and disappointed when he was sold.

I quite liked him and said so on here several times.

Tony Montana

Claudius wrote:
Was a rubbish sale. I was in the shower this morning thinking about what would've happened if we had kept RvP and Song.

You weren't jerking off were you?

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