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Bye Bye FFP?

innervisionscm

Pepe LeFrits wrote:
So, assuming they keep the 8 home grown players, that'd leave them with 13 spots for 16 players:

Pantilimon, Kompany, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Demichelis, Nastasic, Nasri, Garcia, Navas, Silva, Fernandinho, Toure, Negredo, Dzeko, Aguero, Jovetic

3 biggish names to be left out?

For the new page. Pantilimon might leave and they'll surely find a backup GK to use a HG slot. But still that really restricts their transfer activity. The likes of Lescott, Richards, and Rodwell who City might have wanted to move on to free up wages are now important homegrowns. Boyata is out of contract so they're down to 7 HGs.

Can City still offer Sagna a contract? I don't see it. They need Richards in the CL squad unless they buy homegrown players in other positions. Their biggest need is CB and none of the rumored names - Benatia, Mangala, etc. - are homegrown.

Really hope this goes through.

Qwiss

They should really go for the best young English players in the positions they need. The likes of Shaw, Barkley, Caulker, etc Then again when they do that everyone is going to ask for more than they would have when they know Citys situation.

Rex

City can't continue spending either; the way I understand it, clubs with previous offenses here will get progressively harder punishments for breaching the FFP.

innervisionscm

Is there any info on their finances for this 13-14 season? Big reports tend not to come out until the end of the calendar year but it would be useful to see the extent to which their hands are tied this summer. That 51.6m loss is from the 12-13 season and won't affect any possible FFP penalties for their 14-15 spending (as I understand it).

Might they automatically be in trouble again next year for their 13-14 spending (Demichelis, Fernandinho, Navas, Jovetic, Negredo - 92m net)? Hard to believe they could have turned a small profit with all that spending, and any loss would leave them with 12-13 + 13-14 losses above the limit yet again.

This is so confusing but god I hope UEFA follows through with what they're doing right now.

goon

Their policy with regards to complying with FFP is baffling to say the least.

Biggus

Yeah, I'm sick of PSG and Man City dominating the CL, it's made it really hard for Real Barcelona Utd and Bayern to compete, they need all the help Platini can give them.

Claudius

This probably makes a move for Sagna less certain.

invisibleman18

Massive sanction if that goes through, really thought it would just be a slap on the wrist fine and see you same time next year sort of thing. Still can't see it actually going through though, probably end up just being a fine and continue what they are doing.

Burnwinter

I always thought FFP had legs, reason being that the majority of the big clubs wanted spending caps and pushed for them. Remains to be seen precisely what will happen but the screws are tightening.

A 20m euro fine is massive and a significant dent in the CL squad is also a big deal, and one which will result in some strange algebra for rotations.

Be great if a couple of quality City players became available as a consequence of this, is it possible?

Irishgunner

Reckon dzeko/negredo/jovetic are all available if the price is right.

Navas, javi Garcia, and pantilimon could all go too.

goon

City the only one out of the 9 clubs punished kicking up a fuss by the sounds of it, I'm surprised PSG are seemingly taking it on the chin. Seems another tactic of UEFA is to use the potential threat of "far harsher" penalties on appeal to deter clubs from doing so. They've got until tomorrow to reach a deal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27321690

Rex

The lawyer who forever changed the European footballing landscape by arguing, and winning, the Jean-Marc Bosman case is now filing a case on behalf of an agent which attacks the break-even rule of FFP.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24333604

Klaus

otfgoon wrote:
City the only one out of the 9 clubs punished kicking up a fuss by the sounds of it, I'm surprised PSG are seemingly taking it on the chin. Seems another tactic of UEFA is to use the potential threat of "far harsher" penalties on appeal to deter clubs from doing so. They've got until tomorrow to reach a deal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27321690

I almost hope they persist. It'll probably see them thrown out of Europe altogether with Everton taking their spot.

Klaus

Rex wrote:
The lawyer who forever changed the European footballing landscape by arguing, and winning, the Jean-Marc Bosman case is now filing a case on behalf of an agent which attacks the break-even rule of FFP.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24333604

Dupont has lost a ton of football related cases over the years. Every single time he's kicking up a fuss about something the papers sell him as "the lawyer who won the Bosman case". Still living off that reputation like a bum. The reality is that he got lucky. Bosman was always going to happen at some point because the old system didn't make a lick of sense.

goon

Rex wrote:
The lawyer who forever changed the European footballing landscape by arguing, and winning, the Jean-Marc Bosman case is now filing a case on behalf of an agent which attacks the break-even rule of FFP.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24333604

He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Rex

Well, there is no doubt that FFP is in breach of fair trade under EU law. However, FFP was drafted with EU officials involved in the process. I too don't think he has a case here, but who the feck knows?

Biggus

Klaus wrote:
Rex wrote:
The lawyer who forever changed the European footballing landscape by arguing, and winning, the Jean-Marc Bosman case is now filing a case on behalf of an agent which attacks the break-even rule of FFP.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24333604

Dupont has lost a ton of football related cases over the years. Every single time he's kicking up a fuss about something the papers sell him as "the lawyer who won the Bosman case". Still living off that reputation like a bum. The reality is that he got lucky. Bosman was always going to happen at some point because the old system didn't make a lick of sense.

No but you have to understand that a lot of things don't make sense Klaus.
In my lifetime I have seen a lot of changes, things like equal pay for women who do the same job as a man or homosexuality between consenting adults was and is in some parts of the world considered a crime.
People had to fight and win those battles, they don't "just happen at some point" as you seem to assume.

Biggus

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9303159/Wenger-Calls-For-City-UEFA-Suspension

😆 Well thats one way of securing the CL gravy train I suppose.

Klaus

Biggus wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Dupont has lost a ton of football related cases over the years. Every single time he's kicking up a fuss about something the papers sell him as "the lawyer who won the Bosman case". Still living off that reputation like a bum. The reality is that he got lucky. Bosman was always going to happen at some point because the old system didn't make a lick of sense.

No but you have to understand that a lot of things don't make sense Klaus.
In my lifetime I have seen a lot of changes, things like equal pay for women who do the same job as a man or homosexuality between consenting adults was and is in some parts of the world considered a crime.
People had to fight and win those battles, they don't "just happen at some point" as you seem to assume.

You're so weird. Every other post you make is some moronic life lesson where you assume people said something they didn't and go on to lecture them about something unrelated. Stop being a condescending prick. You're the last person who would want to lecture me about gay rights and gender equality (both fights that are nowhere near being won, as it happens).

Klaus

Wenger is absolutely spot on about the FFP, by the way.

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