gazidis loves the smell of napalm in the morning

yeah he loves rubbing it into that chrome dome of his.

and i don't like them either, but i think it's wrong to want agent orange sprayed at the next board meeting.

We could leave a few landmines at Colney but they'd probably only take out the players we still like.

I'd say the odds for that are getting better by the day.

Can anybody give the slightest fuck about paying 7 million for some kid who might be good in 2015 while we are in desparate need of first team players? If it was in addition to the players we actually need then fine but we all know it will be instead of. Complete and utter waste of time and money on a par with signing Eisfeld last January while we continued in the league with no full backs. The only point of signing him would be to try and turn him into a player to sell to United or City in 3 or 4 years anyway. Why bother?

I refer you to post 21 in the "Sagna on his way out" thread!

How about looking at it like this - we have fuck all chance of doing anything in 2013, so maybe our money would be better invested in premier talent that'll help us win in 2017?

Ok, it doesn't convince me either, but we aren't signing the likes of Götze or Cavani, so would I really be happy if we squander yet more cash on 2nd tier talent this winter that'll never amount to anything? Not really.

The logical contrapositive of the old "we need to stop buying youth players and concentrate on getting a few experienced heads in so we can win something."

"We're going to win fuck all so we might as well plan for the future."

Depressing.

asajoseph wrote:

How about looking at it like this - we have fuck all chance of doing anything in 2013, so maybe our money would be better invested in premier talent that'll help us win in 2017?

Ok, it doesn't convince me either, but we aren't signing the likes of Götze or Cavani, so would I really be happy if we squander yet more cash on 2nd tier talent this winter that'll never amount to anything? Not really.

Personally I'd rather not develop someone for United or City at the expense of a proper player for the current team. Just let them buy them and develop them themselves. At the rate we're going there's not going to be a future worth having a star player for anyway.

I reckon we should boo Zaha on arrival then.

😆 Yep, and call him a manc to be grade A cunt.

Zaha has played more professional club games than someone like Jovetic and about the same as Neymar.

Okay, they have been in the championship, but why is the assumption that he can't play first team straight away?

If we buy him I am sure Wenger will want to use him straight away. I have no idea how good he is, but it is a big step up from the Championship to the PL.

asajoseph wrote:

How about looking at it like this - we have fuck all chance of doing anything in 2013, so maybe our money would be better invested in premier talent that'll help us win in 2017?

Ok, it doesn't convince me either, but we aren't signing the likes of Götze or Cavani, so would I really be happy if we squander yet more cash on 2nd tier talent this winter that'll never amount to anything? Not really.

The key is to identify good (not great talent) between 24-30 that deliver straight away or within a year give or take-

Vertonghen
Van der Vaart
Cabaye
Ben Arfa
Tiote
Ba
Evra
Hernandez
Michu
Mertesacker
Vermaelen

etc.

No the assumption is that he will be playing in the first team fairly soon but won't be contributing what we actually need until about 2015/16 when he will then be sold to one of the big clubs for a big profit. That's how we do things.

"Complete and utter waste of time and money" would suggest otherwise, but okay.

Right now we need proven quality even if it means splashing out 30m. If wenger isn't up to it he can leave on the 1st of February.

I do not support this Zaha deal.
Wenger should not be allowed to spend another cent.
Need to spend big.

Swansea have a 20 million pound pay roll. Why can't we have something like that with a few big players thrown in? Surely we can have a better squad with a payroll that is 6 or 7 times that of Swansea.

Swansea haven't played champions league for over a decade.

That's not a serious comparison.

My kind of player. If we can get him on top of two solid pros, it will be a great january.

Flat Cap Wanker wrote:

"Complete and utter waste of time and money" would suggest otherwise, but okay.

Meaning a waste to buy someone who'll frustrate us for 3 years before really contributing when we're currently in our worst position for 2 decades. You think it's a sensible use of money to buy someone who won't really contribute for 3 years or so when we are in quite desperate need of players now? And don't pretend any solid pros other than Henry on loan will be signed as well.

I guess I'm just past the stage where I can bothered signing young talent who will inevitably move to United or City once they come good. Much rather sign someone who is 26/7 and will at least give us their best years and give the slightest shit about making it here. There is only one possible reason why a 19 year old would come here and that is to play enough first team football to become good enough to be signed by one of the top clubs. They're not coming here to make a career here.

Would be a good signing for the wide areas, but then it would mean he is walcott's replacement, and we still need to buy a creative wide player.

I am not impressed by him, we should be doing better. Go continental.

Have tried to catch a few glimpses of him in the last week. I like what I've seen.

Think the selfishness in his play is hiding pretty well rounded footballer, good potential... Still can't see the logic in spending 10m on this guy when the cash is reaaally needed for top quality.

We have enough for both. These bastards are wrecking my patience.

He has pace, power good skill and more importantly can strike a ball. He'll be everything we want gervinho to be.

Gooner too

We might as well spend money on this guy if he's available for the right price. He's young and gifted enough that he'll always have resale value - if his contract is managed with care.

Only Arsenal fans worry about a player's contract issues and / or leaving before he's even close to being signed!

Totally not true! Every second tier club's fans worry about that sort of stuff.

20 days later

Some guy anonymousfc on twitter recons we've agreed terms with big willy

I think we're dead on to sign him before the window closes. Might be worthwhile to check out the odds.

I believe in Tom. Welcome Wilf! 🙂