Like I said the other day, I read part of an interview in Bild last week (can't find it anywhere!), and Sahin clearly gave the impression he saw a future for himself at Real Madrid. That a loan was a temporary solution. Got the feeling then that he wasn't coming, but certainly looked good for us a few days back. I can understand Wenger not being interested in just a loan though. There's got to be a transfer agreement in there, or it's not the right move for us, in my opinion.
I want M'Vila, and I don't think Wenger thinks we have room for them both (I'd have them both and ship 2 or 3 others out!). As long as we get M'Vila, I'm still pretty happy. Bloody annoying though, because I really thought we had him a few days back. Still, look at the bigger picture, Liverpool get a season out of him, then he fucks off, that'll be hard for them to swallow as well.