Biggus you might as well just say the refs shouldn't have headsets either. Technology is faster, not slower. Review is better, not worse. Video can be played back instantly. You act like someone is going to have to leave the pitch and stick their heads in a nickelodeon and crank the film through the gate while they fish their pockets for coins to keep it going. Talk about having your cake and eating it, too! You can't say the team that wins is the best team and then say the best team doesn't necessarily win! It's crazy talk! If they're the best, then they may have not been the fastest or the bravest, but they certainly were the SOMETHING-est!

@Burnsy, you're such a fucking peacenik. When you've got the warmonger looking a fool flailing helplessly with one-liners trying to justify his flip-flopping convenience-based dogma-driven ideologies by quoting fucking Ketuvim, you put him down and keep him down! He only "escaped" because you let him! :gah:

🙂

Anyway, I'm mostly joking. I don't think Biggus really believes a word he's said in this thread. Nobody with such a results-driven philosophy of the game could disagree with a system that was geared specifically towards safeguarding said result with no downside whatsoever. Lets leave wedges, floodgates, slopes, boxes, doors, and all other such metaphorical nonsense out of it. Fact is, the ref is only there to enforce the rules, not as some kind of nostalgic relic of a world without recording devices.

In fact, I don't even think a ref should be allowed to wear contact lenses. It might slow the game down if he gets an itch, and back in my day we didn't even have eyes and we got by just fine, both ways uphill in the snow, etc. etc. Arguments against technology are fogey-er than PHW.

Coombs wrote:

You can't say the team that wins is the best team and then say the best team doesn't necessarily win! It's crazy talk! If they're the best, then they may have not been the fastest or the bravest, but they certainly were the SOMETHING-est!

I don't know where you imagine I said "the best team doesn't necessarily win"???
Some people define the "best" team as the one with the most possession or chances or whatever, I define the best team as the one which scores the most goals and wins the game- ergo the best team always wins....It's not difficult to understand.

Back on topic, people don't think that goal line won't change the nature of the game but it will and it's naive to believe otherwise.
Once the genie is let out of the bottle a whole new can of worms will be opened. 😉

Im in favour of technology for nearly all decisions, don't get this talk that it will slow down the game, if done right it would make it a lot smoother imo.. doubt if could be done with these current refs who are full if themselves though...

Biggus wrote:

I don't know where you imagine I said "the best team doesn't necessarily win"???

Across multiple posts you said that in the end its all governed by chance. You can't claim its all chance but then assert that there is a quantitative, predictable certainty ala "the best team always wins." The two ideas simply do not jive.

Biggus Dickus wrote:

...the Dionysian as well as the Apollonian, the Joeybartonian as well as the Lionelmessianical.

This, however, is class. I liked it so much that I almost thought that technology in refereeing had anything to do with this notion, and almost agreed with you. This part of the game, however, will always be there no matter how many video replays the ref watches.

I still think that video should be there as a tool for the referee to do his job, not as a way for managers to challenge decisions. If the ref wants to see it, he should be able to. If he sees the replay on the big screen after he's blown his whistle, he should be able to amend his decision. Anything less is akin to closing your eyes and covering your ears.

All the refs are already in communication with each other right? Instead of having the 4th official getting abuse from Wenger and his colleagues - have him sit in front of a tv getting the same images we get. He would easily be able to give the head ref all the info he may need regarding goal line shit, poor tackles, penalty situations, simulation etc. Wouldn't affect the speed of the game at all, but would help prevent bad calls.

All this talk of "challenges" by managers is just nonsense though.

Coombs wrote:
Biggus wrote:

I don't know where you imagine I said "the best team doesn't necessarily win"???

Across multiple posts you said that in the end its all governed by chance. You can't claim its all chance but then assert that there is a quantitative, predictable certainty ala "the best team always wins." The two ideas simply do not jive.

I still don't understand where you're getting this from Coombsy.
There is no certainty no "best team" that has to be decided by the result of the game- Ergo "the best team" is the one one that wins the game!!!
I've never said that chance totally decides a game?? Yes it plays a role, how much who knows, how much was Bayern's loss to Chelsea in the CL down to bad luck or bad finishing?

You can never bring in goal line technology when dealing with Biggus because as we've seen here he is constantly moving the goal posts.

Thats why no one is ever able to land a blow. 😉
I pass it around and around, it's true then you always become what you most despise- Bigguselona. :o

Heh. What would you do Gus if your son at 16 is offered a spot at La Masia? Barcelona taking care of you and the rest of the family?

Sadly he prefers motor sport Rex, my efforts to teach him the beautiful game have foundered so far.......He doesn't seem to enjoy me screaming at him-Kick 'im son kick 'im- now hoof it!

Seems a quixotic quest to get a little kid in Australia to choose football.
Try not to take it as a big fat failure on your part Gus! 🙂

You're a parent Rex, you should understand how hard it is to see your genetic weaknesses replicated in your children.

Brainwashing has worked wonders on mine as far as Arsenal is concerned. They didn't stand a chance! 🙂

Biggus wrote:

Sadly he prefers motor sport Rex, my efforts to teach him the beautiful game have foundered so far.......He doesn't seem to enjoy me screaming at him-Kick 'im son kick 'im- now hoof it!

F1 wanabe? Let him give it a real go, its a good sport!

Humble Rex wrote:

Brainwashing has worked wonders on mine as far as Arsenal is concerned. They didn't stand a chance! 🙂

Of course you have to give them a choice- Follow Arsenal or sleep in the street.

When I'm watching he'll sit on my lap and say "we're the Gooners! dad"

Back on topic......

8 months later

The President of the the Society for the preservation of stockings and suspenders has announced that goal line that goal line technology will be used at the 2014 fifa world cup.

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8509816/Goal-line-Tech-For-FIFA

One the are types of technologies involves a micro chip inserted in the ball, so no more Santi placing it well outside the corner quadrant.

The ghost has been kicked out of the machine the thin end of the wedge is starting to cut.

About time. Too little, but at least it is a start.

Those chips in the ball would be great, I wonder how long it will take to smash smash smuh-ash them.