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Afellay

Burnwinter

I think Gervinho needs more time to settle, personally, and probably has a more productive season in him. Wish there was no ACN this year, that's bullshit.

He does everything bar finishing or delivering the final ball very well and with a good success rate, and does his work at a very high level that worries even top defenders. People are very hard on him, and I see why, but there's plenty to work with in his basic game.

Clrnc

General Mirth wrote:
Is Affelay better than Podolski? The latter is at least a much more prolific goalscorer.

Gervinho has his uses, I think we could with someone like him who disrupts the lines by running at players, particularly when we play teams that have 10 players behind the ball and it's next to impossible to pick a pass.

Afellay is definitely a much better winger than Podolski. Poldi is very one dimensional on the wings to me because he is very one footed. Afellay can cut in, can dribble, have a great shot. His goalscoring isn't that bad from the wings as well. You have to note Podolski is a prolific goalscorer as a CF.

Ray Fakadakis wrote:
Different type of player.

Afellay reminds me of navas

Very different players to me. Navas is a one footed crossing merchant

Rex

We have 3 pages on this guy based on Dula's poor photoshop job?! We aren't even linked are we?

asajoseph

Based on a lot of reading between the lines after RVP said some nice things about him after a Holland Friendly.

Qwiss

Well if it'd keep RVP then I'd definitely sign him

Clrnc

You can bet it would. They are as close as it gets

Kel Varnsen

Burnwinter wrote:
I think Gervinho needs more time to settle, personally, and probably has a more productive season in him. Wish there was no ACN this year, that's bullshit.

He does everything bar finishing or delivering the final ball very well and with a good success rate, and does his work at a very high level that worries even top defenders. People are very hard on him, and I see why, but there's plenty to work with in his basic game.

he's what, 25 and still is still clumsy as hell when it comes to finishing and the final ball.

FantasticMrFox

Humble Rex wrote:
We have 3 pages on this guy based on Dula's poor photoshop job?! We aren't even linked are we?

Yeah. We havent been linked to him. Dont think we're getting him.

Mirth

Clrnc wrote:
General Mirth wrote:
Is Affelay better than Podolski? The latter is at least a much more prolific goalscorer.

Gervinho has his uses, I think we could with someone like him who disrupts the lines by running at players, particularly when we play teams that have 10 players behind the ball and it's next to impossible to pick a pass.

Afellay is definitely a much better winger than Podolski. Poldi is very one dimensional on the wings to me because he is very one footed. Afellay can cut in, can dribble, have a great shot. His goalscoring isn't that bad from the wings as well. You have to note Podolski is a prolific goalscorer as a CF.

I'll take your word for it, given that I've only seen Affellay play for Holland and Barcelona but the man has only once scored over 10 goals in his career. Given that he's already 26, I think that's pretty poor.

lorddulaarsenal

Jamie Sanderson‏@YoungGunsBlog

Arsenal clearly in market for play-maker, but not a priority. AW admits love for Belhanda. Barça's Afellay for £6m better value.

Tenuous

lorddulaarsenal

What he can bring

kamikaze

if we sign bellhandle while united sign kagawa, fuck it, im done.

Burnwinter

Kel Varnsen wrote:
he's what, 25 and still is still clumsy as hell when it comes to finishing and the final ball.

Theo's 23 and still can't go past a man.
Arshavin's ancient and still tubby, bored, pissed off and on loan.
The alternatives are raw.

So if everyone we've got is flawed, we might as well continue to punt on a guy who makes the right runs, and can dribble past a player. Gives us something tangible against teams that don't want to play defensive-suicide-ball like Spurs.

Coombs

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
I think Gervinho needs more time to settle, personally, and probably has a more productive season in him. Wish there was no ACN this year, that's bullshit.

He does everything bar finishing or delivering the final ball very well and with a good success rate, and does his work at a very high level that worries even top defenders. People are very hard on him, and I see why, but there's plenty to work with in his basic game.

he's what, 25 and still is still clumsy as hell when it comes to finishing and the final ball.

Think its a bit harsh. He and Van Persie looked set to develop quite the partnership and he was growing into his role here until the ACN. Came back shit. Was fine before it, though. No reason not to think he'll start off well next season.

asajoseph

The flaws he Has now are the same ones he had in France for years. He came back from the ACON looking tired and jaded, and half a yard slower, but the player we sent was still a blithering idiot whenever he had to do anything with the ball.

Burnwinter

Sure, his flaws will likely remain the same and he has a massive confidence issue finishing at present, not unlike Aaron Ramsey. I said as much.

So this isn't an all out defence of his brilliance - far from it - but what his track record in France actually indicates is that he should be able to improve on 4 league goals, not that that's his ceiling.

asajoseph

I tend to agree, to some extent (my response was primarily to Coombs, 'cos I don't think Gervinho was fine before the ACON, or is fine in general).

I think he'll get more than 4 goals, but I also think he's an inherently flawed player, someone who will frustrate more than he performs, and someone I'd love to see ditched at the earliest possible opportunity.

spacemanspiff

kamikaze wrote:
if we sign bellhandle while united sign kagawa, fuck it, im done.

Pretty much. I know Belhanda well and he's a very obvious step down. Not as good a dribbler, not as creative, not as clinical, not as intelligent in his off the ball movement, not as quick, maybe a little more physically robust though.

As for Thomas Muller, it'll never happen. He's Bayern's prize jewel and they'll give him what he wants (a payrise and a few more appearances).

Burnwinter

@Asa No one would ever complain if we brought in a genuine upgrade like Afellay. Podolski's not a bad start on the left if Robin stays. I'm just a bleeding heart for some of these guys like Gerv who tend to get trashed when they've got plenty of good qualities.

lorddulaarsenal

Who mentioned Muller or have there been links?

We really need a good playmaker who can get the best out of our pacey runners. No belhanda's or taraabts please.

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