Can you draw me a picture?
Jan Vertonghen
Sorry I meant from a Pyramid to a V.
So instead of what we have now
--- Rosicky
Wilshere --------- Songwe'll have
Rosicky --------- Wilshere
------ VertonghenAhh ok. The legendary 3 pointed diamond. I prefer that anyway, but i prefer martinez to vetonghen for that role.
What's wrong with Song?
Loses the shape of midfield all the time.
Nothing. He is better than Vertonghen, I can tell you that much.
Why do you people think that the manager wants a dedicated DM?
i see jan mainly as a defender. i can't see him dislodging song for the dm position.
Gazza M wrote:i see jan mainly as a defender. i can't see him dislodging song for the dm position.
Song doesn't wanna be a DM. He doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't stay in position, which makes us susceptible to the counter. Song will be moved forward to compete with Jack, Tomas and Rambo.
Thats definitely not right. Even if M'Vila or Vertonghen joins, Wenger will give them the freedom to roam too.
Moving Song forward is a bad choice. He is not even half as good as the others attacking wise. He is fine with what he is now.
Song roams forward because Wenger allows him to. Do people really believe Song is going on these runs forward of his own accord?
If Wenger instructed Song to sit and just hold in front of the defense we'd look much more solid, but he encourages Alex to get foward.
If we went back to the system of one 'holder' with two ahead of him rather than the double pivot we play now we'd get much more out of Alex.
Wenger isn't ignorant of a players desires. However if we sign someone that loves to defend and wants to sit, he'll do that. Wenger won't force him to get forward.
There is no denying his Belgian international team-mate Thomas Vermaelen definitely has a huge part in his desire to shift to England. He said few days ago, “ I have instructed my agent carefully," Vertonghen said. "He knows which clubs I want to join and Arsenal are one of them.
"Arsenal are a magnificent club and I hear a lot of good things about English football. If a club of Arsenal's calibre can reach agreement with Ajax, then I will gladly go over.
"I haven't signed anything with them yet. But I went to watch them against Milan, together with my Ajax team-mate Siem de Jong, after Vermaelen invited us."
However Barcelona are also said to be keen on the 24-year old after El Mundo Deportivo reported Pep Guardiola was closely monitoring his progress at Ajax as he looks to for a suitable replacement for the ageing legs of captain Carlos Puyol.
He also distanced himself from cash-rich club Manchester City, saying he prefers the ‘city life’ better further indicating a affinity to London.
Vertonghen pretty much spilled the beans which club in London too when he just shrugged when asked about Tottenham Hotspurs.
Nice.
seems like he really wants to come here, but i'm not sure we have a spot for him. it's not like we're going to switch to a 3-man defence.
I'd say Djourou would have to follow Squillaci out of the door for it to to happen.
Hmm sometimes if wenger is sweet on a player he'll just go get him
so vertonghen would come here to ride the pine? and mertesacker would be 4th choice? makes no sense whatsoever for anyone.
we can upgrade our forward line though. jovetic would be fantastic, and if gervinho or walcott have to leave to make that work, then fine.
if he is indeed willing to 'ride the pine' as it were, then I'm all for this. I don't see it happening though.
Do not want. If we've got £15-20m to spend let's drop it on a forward.
Ricky1985 wrote:I'd say Djourou would have to follow Squillaci out of the door for it to to happen.
Would be very ideal.
Vertonghen won´t improve us anywhere. We have no need whatsoever for him.