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van Persie sold to Man United

Klaus

I don't know why people have to put a negative spin on the fact that we managed to pick up some absolute quality in Podolski and Cazorla. We've known for months that Robin is off and we've made signings in accordance with it. He played a whopping four minutes against Köln, three of which were added time. It's obvious that he's not a part of the plans for next season. We're either waiting for United to up their bid or, more likely, for City to get rid of a few players so they can pay us what we want. The idea that Robin wouldn't be interested in going there is clearly nonsense. If they come in for him with a serious bid he'll be in Manchester before we've even agreed to sell him.

Nela

Burnwinter wrote:
Think it's pretty funny that some of you are only discovering now that Van Persie's a cunt. Been clear from the moment that statement hit the press. It's also been a known likelihood that he'd leave since then: and that has only been cast into doubt in the last few days by the absence of news.

Be clear on one thing: the other person with most control over whether he stays or goes is Arsène Wenger, so don't forget where to place the credit or blame later.

No, the people with most control other than RvP is the board. Whatever you think about Wenger, he's clearly doesn't want to sell to United. Just look at the situation last year with Nasri. In the end we were lucky that City came in for him. There is no way the board is going to ok giving up on 20-25 million pounds to keep a Nasri or an RvP to the end of their contract. I know fans like to convince themselves it's "worth it" to let the contract run out but that's nonsense in the real world.

y va marquer

I reckon his nerves are shot right now, probably wasn't expecting to still be stuck here on the eve of the start of the new season.

He'll be wrecked mentally for a while wherever he goes, genuinely think he's going to struggle big time in the initial stages.

Ray

Yeah wherever he ends up playing next season he will have regressed as a player, can't see him scoring more than 15 goals.

squallkid

OR He'll score 30 goals and lead United to the title.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Anyone who thinks he won't perform for them has their Arsenal tinted glasses on.

illmatik

The thought of Van Persie on the back of that kit makes me vomit profusely

lorddulaarsenal

He'll score lots cos he's a quality player. He may get injured though.

One things for sure is that he won't enjoy his football as much as he has done during his time here.

Looking at him, I think he knows he's been a twat and has come off in a bad light. If it were me, I wouldn't want to lose hero status for grubby manufactured reflected glory

mohan

He will score goals if he play. That much is sure.
If he goes away to a PL club, just hope his legs become glass once again.

Rex

Nela wrote:
I know fans like to convince themselves it's "worth it" to let the contract run out but that's nonsense in the real world.

The club doesn't primarily exist to make ends meet. The primary goal is to be succesful on the pitch. If those in charge at the club feel we have a realistic chance to actually WIN something this season - then £20m or so certainly is 'worth it'. We don't 'need' the money from an RVP sale.

Make the semis in the CL, another round or two in the FA Cup and possibly a higher position in the league - there you have those £20m in extra prize money. Not to mention better results on the pitch may be able to generate more cash when we will renegotiate our main sponsorship deals. There are quite a few ways where keeping RVP to his contract COULD turn out to be a better decision in fact than selling him to one of the clubs we wish to outperform on the pitch.

squallkid

Signing RVP for Man Utd would be the best signing of the summer.

Think about it.

Forget about Hazard, Podolski, Oscar, Cazorla and all the rest, they are new to this league and who knows if they can perform for 38 games. Robin on the other hand knows the league inside out, he's been in England for 8 seasons and he is a proven goal scorer

A 30 goal a season striker up front with Rooney another 30 goal per season striker.

That's why we can't let it happen.

Timbob

If he's really fallen out with Wenger then there genuinely is no point in keeping him. Can't have Captain and Coach not on the same page.

Tbh, although its a change of tune for me, I'm not convinced we would be any better for keeping RVP against his will. I was clinging to the hope that he might change his mind and sign a new deal, but its obvious that's not gonna happen. He's decided to leave and we now need to make the best of a bad situation. Move him on and bring someone in that we can make plans with. I defo think we can sell him and with the players we've already bought, improvements within the existing squad and an additional signing or two still be a lot better than last year.

Ray

His only scored 30 goals in one season even adebayor did that, and is ageing not to mention has difficulty in adapting to teams where he isnt the main man (holland). And you cant forget his injury record, he could be a good signing for them but its a gamble for them at 25m.

squallkid

timbo where did you hear had a falling out with Wenger?

Sam, Gerrard and Lampard rarely perform for England, you can't compare internationals with club football, apple and oranges.

lorddulaarsenal

If Wenger hadn't already lost his faith in players being loyal after cesc n nasri, he may well do after robins actions. That in turn will likely mean he'll continue his recent ways in the transfer market. Great

Biggus

Clrnc wrote:
Think only Squalkid is absolutely with me. I am waiting for Ricky to come on board.

I would rather sell him to Spurs. At least to me United is our worst rival. I could stomach him going to Chelsea or City or Liverpool or even Spurs since they are shit, not united. Strengthening a title rival and lowering our pride. Can't wait for those fags to crash and burn. Watch Evra call us their dogs again. Then those who want us to sell to United and agree with him.

Indeed, and don't forget your promise that you and Kid made about being done with Wenger if this deal goes through. 😉

Klaus

He's young. He'll come around when he realises we've actually improved this summer.

lorddulaarsenal

It's our best summer in years.

I'm so frickin happy we have cazorla, podolski and giroud. All bought at good times in their careers

yuv

Bumper Rex wrote:
Nela wrote:
I know fans like to convince themselves it's "worth it" to let the contract run out but that's nonsense in the real world.

The primary goal is to be succesful on the pitch. If those in charge at the club feel we have a realistic chance to actually WIN something this season - then £20m or so certainly is 'worth it'.

Make the semis in the CL...[etc.] - there you have those £20m in extra prize money... more cash when we will renegotiate our main sponsorship deals.

Though I totally agree with Nela on how things normally are, and how fans' reasoning is motivated enough to be skewed, I agree with Rex (at least his first point). It's not a universal law that the board needs to decide according to either a simple, short term logic, a long term financial one, or any other.

It does involve some wishful thinking on the part of the fans to figure the board can just see the opportunity - that we might actually be title contenders, rising from the ashes (let's face it - that's where we were in the last few years), and figure it's worth doing (or worth the money). But the logic is not fantastic, just like signing 3 great players in one summer seemed fantastic - but we know it's not.

Personally I think the stronger argument is the one not dependent on money, but that it can go on and be backed as Rex put it in the latter part is also true.

a very desperate squallkid wrote:
OR He'll score 30 goals and lead United to the title.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Anyone who thinks he won't perform for them has their Arsenal tinted glasses on.

OR He'll last 30 minutes and leave United to the table.

Form is temporary, glass is permanent.

Anyone who thinks he won't deform for them has their Arsenal history glasses off.

Chillax, Squallkid. As disgusted as I am by the situation, him leaving right now is actually a positive. We should anxiously await the news we were previously dreading - he needs to go pronto. And as dules said earlier - let's wait for the comic part now.

Would be nice if our new captain renews his old rivalry with VP. Let's see them tackles flying in.

squallkid

Okay Yuv, I'm fairly chilled now, I don't see how selling our captain, best player and 30 goal a season striker to our biggest rivals is a positive but if you say so.

Whatever happens, happens.

Can't waste any more finger energy typing about that pathetic Dutch wanker.

yuv

It obviously wasn't before he made up his mind to leave no matter what. But that's hardly relevant now, is it? That's why we were dreading the news before, and now it'll bring a sigh of relief.
Oh, and BTW - he was my fav player in the team for years (since DB retired). But all I have for him right now is contempt, and I wish he'll be gone asap.

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