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Piero Hincapie

RowJimmy

We've played something very like that (3-2-4-1 or just 3-2-5) in possession the last two years, falling back into a 4-4-2 when defending. The key has been the infamous inverted LB moving into MF or even attack but still responsible for getting back into defense.
If you think about it in those terms what you've proposed means either substituting Eze for Rice (MLS as 2nd DM falling back when necessary) or playing without someone who has that extra responsibility.
I think that we may do something like that when chasing the game but I'd be very surprised to see it from the beginning even against the lowest of low blocks.

daredevil

RowJimmy

People aren’t paying attention lol - that’s exactly how we attack and the 4-4-2 when defending or pressing.

Hincapie defends like his life depends on it. Love the commitment.

Burnwinter

That block they're highlighting is spectacular.

Meatwad

Sicario2
There's a war goin' on outside, no man is safe from. You could run, but you can't hide forever.

lorddulaarsenal

We don’t attack like the formation posted would suggest. We certainly don’t use two playmakers at the minute

daredevil

We've long used a 3-2-5 in possession.

https://coachnotes.co.uk/blogs/blog/mikel-arteta
Shape: Commonly a 3-2-5 in possession. Wingers hold width high up the pitch while the midfielders rotate in the half-spaces and attacking zones.

Profile wise - we don't use dual playmakers which I wish we would - would be curious to see Eze and Ode in the center and Trossard wide left.

lorddulaarsenal

Short cameo today, but my word is he quick

lorddulaarsenal

I still can’t believe that mad pace I saw on him.

Had to rub my eyes. It was mental

USArsenal

lorddulaarsenal

Is he the one that ran the winger down that had a 10+ yard head start on him? (I thought that was Mosquera, i commented about it in the match thread). It was hard to tell who it was while i was watching it.

lorddulaarsenal

Yep that was him. Filthy pace

Big Willie

Link the clip @lorddulaarsenal

USArsenal

I know the play he's talking about. If that was Hincapie, then he's right, he certainly got some speed on him

Meatwad

when did this sequence happen? he basically came on for the 6 mins of extra time. i didn't pay much attention to extra time. arsenal.com has the full replay up and i just watched it and still didn't notice anything other than him being tucked in and then running out the winger and showing good quickness. but i didn't notice him running anyone down.

flobaba

Your Interlull read.

https://billycarpenter.substack.com/p/scouting-piero-hincapie

Really curious about how we slot this guy in once he is fit again. Is he Gabriel's understudy? A traditional overlapping full back?

Big Willie

flobaba Really curious about how we slot this guy in once he is fit again. Is he Gabriel's understudy? A traditional overlapping full back?

We already have an inverting fullback, why not an overlapping CB?

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Big Willie Chris Wilder eat your heart out.

USArsenal

I think he is ultimately a cross between a Gabriel backup and a Calafiori backup. He can be used in either spot. I still think MLS will not end up at LB, he will eventually make his way into the midfield. I just don't see him as LB long term, much like Saka was not a LB long term (clearly. lol).

Sicario2

lorddulaarsenal

He’s awesome.

Klaus

His natural aggression is amazing. It's incredibly rare in a centreback and you can't really teach it, you gotta be wired right. Gabriel has it, Kos had it, Sol had it. Only way to deal with elite forwards.

Hincapie will be a top class prospect if they can find the right level for it over the next few years.

Mirth

Klaus I suspect that's why Arteta picked him over Mosquera. The latter has incredible talent but him and Saliba could act like they are too cool for school and you can't risk it in a NLD.

Qwiss

Mirth that may be true but I doubt its why Arteta picked him and reckon its more based on their strong foot.

He'd a great game though and was very measured.

Klaus Only way to deal with elite forwards.

He'll have to face one first.

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