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Summer 2025 Transfer Window

Mirth

No one’s ever said that about the Telegraph before

flobaba

Just give me a Gyokeres. It's the sensible (obvious) choice for a team that wants to win now/ is looking for a bit of a sure(r) thing. Even If he scores "just" 20 goals a season (half the 39 he's got in Portugal), it would be more than worth it. I understand the doubts about the Portuguese league quality, but I also think it's overstated. Besides doesn't xG sort of take that shit into consideration as well?

Sesko should have been brought in last term and given a chance to settle in behind Havertz. He won't get that luxury if he comes in this season considering how thirsty our fanbase (and club) has become for trophies. The demand/pressure on him will be massive, and one or two howitzers won't assuage folks.

We should not galaxy brain this, and I don't think we will.

Burnwinter

De-paywalled link to the Telegraph article:

https://archive.md/KmUlp

Below there's the Cannon Stats adjusted model for Gyökeres. If I'm reading it right the model suggests 134–182 minutes per non-penalty goal at Premier League level.

I think 140–150 minutes would be around 40% less than his non-penalty strike rate in Portugal so it isn't too far off the Telegraph's trend either.

3,000 league minutes for Gyökeres would be predicted to derive a bit more than 20 goals. If he got lucky and stayed fit, he could get 25. And that is why we should sign him, because it's goals we lack. It's that simple and we should not outsmart ourselves.

Technically he doesn't look that special but he's not a mutant Andy Carroll like Nuñez either.

awooga83

Burnwinter I did see some other analysis referenced on the arsecast which I think is from a guy linked to canon stats which looked at what teams the goals were scored against which maybe unsurprisingly the majority were racked up against lower opposition outside the top few teams.

Whilst that doesn't mean it automatically translates and we do need ways to break lower quality teams. I would guess that the lesser teams in Portugal are probably a lot worse then even most premier League sides so a potential that his output may be impacted further by that and he might not be able to bully the lower premier League sides in quite the same way.

lorddulaarsenal

Here’s an idea. Get Mateta

Burnwinter

awooga83

I think he'd probably be kept a lot quieter against the sort of low-mid blocks we continually face, but on the other hand, there's that 40% factored into the numbers anyway (and it's based on non-penalty goals, and so on).

Bottom line the guy's very quick (a touch quicker than Šeško going by the numbers), tall (a couple of inches shorter than Šeško) and continually puts it in the net. He's not technically inept and I think it's a bit of a myth we couldn't use him, but could use Šeško.

flobaba

Nah, I saw on the internets that he's going to Man U.

So when they lose their fans can sing:

A Cunha Mateta...

lorddulaarsenal

It means no Champions League for the rest of your days

samthegooner

lorddulaarsenal We will be making a big mistake if we go for David and Kudus IMO. David is a worse version of Lacazette and just offers very little dynamism other than being a solid finisher. Average everywhere else.

Kudus would be fine if he were available for like 30/40m but he will definitely cost in excess of 60/70m and for that fee we would be much better off going for Eze, who could play a similar role. I believe Kudus lost the ball more than any other player in the EPL last year and he just looks like he's stagnated a bit. Again, I'd take him on a lower fee to see if we could revitalize him but there's no way West Ham is selling him for cheap.

Gazza M

some west ham fans want to get rid of kudus for the season he's just had. similar criticisms that milan have of leao this season - too inconsistent and lazy at times. these are the guys you scoop up as wild card signings after you've secured your top targets.

Gazza M

some other colour from that mokbel interview

interest in mbeumo was real but united offered a fat stack to get him
sane contact is real but is likely more from the player/agent side
zubimendi is done pending medical. anyone trying to exit the deal at this stage may be subject to legal reprisal.
club is unanimous on sesko being the guy, just waiting on the economic picture from Leipzig as has been said
we want Williams but his salary demands are extreme and would be make him one of our highest earners. the transfer fee is no issue
saka and saliba contracts are progressing well but will probably take some time to finalise

Burnwinter

Gazza M anyone trying to exit the deal at this stage may be subject to legal reprisal.

Not bad, but if he tries to wiggle out now I reckon we go for illegal reprisal as well.

Qwiss

Gazza M we want Williams but his salary demands are extreme and would be make him one of our highest earners. the transfer fee is no issue

Williams was my pick for LW this summer but if he is demanding well over £300k then it makes sense to look elsewhere.

Burnwinter

Sudden links going wide to this kid Konstantinos Karetsas, with a bumper €45m deal mentioned.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/football/arsenal/news/arsenal-talks-greek-wonderkid-konstantinos-karetsas/98416995b45cb06aeebb0f49

Left-footed: check

If true that's a massive amount of money for a 17 year old. The claim is we would sign him up, then he would stay at KRC Genk another year on loan.

Asterix

Burnwinter pretty sure that’s “rising to”.

Klaus

Burnwinter I'm pretty sure the link is bull, but anyone spending that amount on a kid at this stage of the project needs to be sacked.

lorddulaarsenal

Can he play the holding midfield role too?

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

We're simply embarrassing in transfer windows. Clueless.

USArsenal

In what way are we embarrassing? It does not all depend on us... Other teams have an actual say any transfer we may want to execute.

Claudius

USArsenal not just embarrassing, but clueless. 🙂

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

USArsenal why are were only learning about potential obstacles now? We should have had groundwork largely done and dusted before the summer.

Amateur hour. We've known for ages about Williams' stupid wage demands for instance so why is the club acting blindsided?

Mirth

I have a bad feeling that we sign Karetsas and then Sane as a 'stop gap'.

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