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Summer 2025 Transfer Window

Qwiss

Coombs not just these days 😉

Speedster

He's clearly a good player. He just doesn't have the footballing IQ to take the final step. I think he's maxed out.

As teams have sat back he struggles to find solutions.

I know you loved iwobi but he's the same low footballing IQ. They're not bad players but they've got a ceiling, ESR was the same. Pepe I know you liked him but he was an extreme example of low footballing IQ. Literally not a single manager in football came in for him when he wasn't playing.

If we're going to make the left side more of a weapon we need someone who sees the game better and can combine on that side.

Qwiss

Speedster Iwobi has his flaws, his football IQ isn't one. Have you watched him since he left Arsenal? Carried Everton, been brilliant for Fulham.

HomeSteak

Pepe LeFrits

flobaba Basically, Rodrygo outside of the goalscoring/assist numbers is a simply a better all round player.

Rodrygo's goal scoring and assist numbers are miles better than Martinelli's, I'm not sure where this idea comes from.

Last five seasons:

Rodrygo
25 GA, 3448 mins (14g, 11a) ... 137 mins per goal/assist
26 GA, 3707 mins (17g, 9a) ... 142
30 GA, 3853 mins (19g, 11a) ... 128
18 GA, 2413 mins (9g, 9a) ... 134
10 GA, 1299 mins (2g, 8a) ... 130

Martinelli
16 GA, 3564 mins (10g, 6a) ... 222
13 GA, 2640 mins (8g, 5a) ... 203
22 GA, 3440 mins (15g, 7a) ... 156
12 GA, 2334 mins (6g, 6a) ... 194
4 GA, 839 mins (2g, 2a) ... 209

flobaba

Pepe LeFrits in isolation last season totals. But yeah I think he’ll be all round a plus, even if I have doubts about his physicality/ ability to impose himself

Qwiss

Pepe LeFrits

Pepe LeFrits Martinelli
12 GA, 3564 mins (10g, 6a) ... 297

10 + 6 = 12? 🤔

Coombs

Rodrygo is better than Martinelli, but selling Martinelli to buy him would be a mistake, primarily because we'd be keeping Trossard, who is worse than both and on the wrong side of the age curve.

HomeSteak

Coombs My worry with selling Martinelli and replacing him with either Eze or Rodrygo would be us losing the only guy in our attack that has real pace. We should replace him in the starting 11, but yes you are right, sell Trossard keep Martinelli as a squad player, he can also play on the right

CPM

I think we have a great opportunity to get a premium talent at a cut rate, really desperate for Rodrygo to happen. We need a difference maker and I seriously doubt the striker we sign will provide it. Arteta and the boys have created a great atmosphere and I think he would find a new lease on life here.

CPM

I don’t see any world in which we sell Martinelli. And it’s not necessary to do so.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

CPM I hope not, but who else could raise the funds I'm assuming we'll need for other players?

HomeSteak

tazmania

CPM

David Ornstein said yesterday that in order to get a start left winger we need to sell Martinelli.

lorddulaarsenal

Accept!

Gazza M

lorddulaarsenal can we please get a blanket ban on ben jacobs. the guy is Wayne gooney status

JazzG

lorddulaarsenal That is his normal value, why on earth would we sell for that much. Needs to be £90m+ before we consider it.

tazmania

Why sell Martinelli? I'm going to be angry if we sell him and replace with Rodrygo and Madueke. Keep Martinelli, sell Leo and bring in rodry

I'd even keep Leo. That's plenty of wingers for 2 spots

QuincyAbeyie

HomeSteak it seemed like that was just his thoughts about the situation, not actual Intel.

lorddulaarsenal

madueke is class by the way

Not sure if Chelsea will actually entertain selling him

flobaba

lorddulaarsenal fwiw, I agree with you. He is the sort of player Sterling should have been. Great backup for Saka, if he’ll agree to the role.

GooneriC

Just no. Give them Trossard for 45 million

Gazza M

can't muster much enthusiasm for this link

flobaba

Gazza M monitoring and talking, nothing concrete yet.

Qwiss

Gazza M people want to sell Martinelli while we are trying to buy Madueke. Jesus wept.

HomeSteak

Gazza M I don't like this, we do not need to pay 50 fucking million for him. Just let Nwaneri be the sub for Saka. No need for this. Get a top striker, top left winger and we are fine.

awooga83

Gazza M this would be such a bad move. Another player failing to perform at Chelsea. I hope we don't think that's what we need to progress. My Chelsea mates just don't understand the interest and hope we go for him as the guy cannot finish.

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