title rice is definitely over. even though there's lots of points up for grabs, we're locked in to playing the same way for the rest of the season, which means results like today's will keep happening.
The project is over
Difference is that Liverpool aren't prone to losing games this season. They grind out draws or destroy teams. We're not winning every single game for the rest of the season so we should admit the league is over. It sucks because this was our best chance in the last 5 years but it is the reality. Liverpool could lose their best player and still grind out a draw.
Owners don't want to win all that much.
The club has little ambition. They are happy for top 4 being BAU.
I do agree that the Kroenkes care less for success than fans, and less than Arteta and the players.
I would dispute the idea they care less than other owners. They’re likely more than happy that we’re back to being “respectable” and they’ll certainly be happy with CL footy. More than that, it’s just icing on an already massive cake for them.
The money we've spent the last five years, largely without CL football suggests ambition. Whether we've invested that money efficiently or not is another matter.
Don Pacifico
Ambition to get CL footie. As soon as we get it they revert to type. They got a huge 13 days in front of them otherwise what’s the point?
Sicario2 - Tier 1 that's definitely not how managing spend works.
We've only won more than 2 matches in a row twice this season in the EPL. Our consistency is not good enough.
Don Pacifico managing spending is not what we need right now. No PSR problems at all, its purely down to the will of the owners to do what it takes.
So what are we now - two points behind where we were last season after the same round of matches?
Claudius no we are potentially 9 points behind in Feb if Liverpool win their game in hand.
Claudius So what are we now - two points behind where we were last season after the same round of matches?
Maybe, but we ended last season with 1 loss and 1 draw over the course of the remainder of the season and still missed out. You reckon we can put that kind of run together again?
Points and position aside, it’s clear this team is floundering.
Getting back Ben White won’t be enough to kick on.
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Big Willie we were similarly laboured in the first half of last season as well, so it's not good that we're doing worse at the same point this season. and we're definitely not putting the same kind of insane run down the stretch.
Don Pacifico entirely possible the owners are looking at it that way, too. I would be. Over a 100m spent on Rice, you'd think we'd have bought the next Gerrard or Lampard, not a better version of Mathieu Flamini. Or Havertz, 65m and 300-odd-k a week on a bloke who has spells where he looks like he's the second coming of Ali Dia (look him up if you don't know the story). Calafiori? Can't even get out on the pitch. Waste of money.
TambourineMan I still don't think it is done, Liverpool will drop points but fuck me we need to get our act together.
Part of the problem isn't in our control, we are literally running on fumes and our squad has been absolutely decimated with injuries. Did you see our bench today?
It's done. It's not our season. Nothing is going for us.
Last season things were going for us and we should have won it.
@Sicario2 - Tier 1 was right when he said no guarantee we'd keep getting chances at the title like we did in the last 2 seasons.
