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Pre-season 24/25

banduan

Kai pulls one back. Our pressing has been great.
Zinchenko involved in that too. The duality of Zinny.

CPM

Gazza M I don't see that, Ødegaard has had plenty of joy tonight. We look awkward passing because our front three have been absolutely atrocious.

banduan

Reiss has no strength.

GooneriC

Our defending has been garbage

banduan

GooneriC Our defending has been garbage

Zinny has been the easy target but Partey as much to blame.

Gazza M

havertz has shown more defensive presence and awareness than partey. stick a fork in him

CPM

It's one thing for Zinchenko and Partey to be bad, but Martinelli really needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He needs to be a contributor this season. And I really dislike Jesus at the 9. It's a shame Sesko didn't work out, so we could push Jesus to the wings.

TambourineMan

LW and ST still an issue going into the new season. Hoping we fix at least one of the issues before Wolves.

TambourineMan

TambourineMan us not getting a LW is not reactionary like some would like to frame. we've been banging this drum for over a year. we got our ST, but have fallen short on LW reinforcements.

Post above is from 1 August 2024, we've just had a season where Martinelli/Trossard have done nothing to make us think the problem is solved and yet, here we are - about to go into another season with these two as our LW options for another season.

And just look through this thread to see the number of people flagging Martinelli as an issue.

Gazza M

at least ode and havertz look locked in. both have been good today

Gazza M

ESR being sold while vieira is still at the club will never not be irksome to me.

DiabyKungFu

I think Lewis-Skelly has gone 3 for 3 so far this preseason. Nwaneri has been getting more attention but I think Lewis-Skelly has been even better.

DiabyKungFu

DiabyKungFu I think Lewis-Skelly has gone 3 for 3 so far this preseason. Nwaneri has been getting more attention but I think Lewis-Skelly has been even better.

I think today was the first time he looked positionally suspect.

CPM

I don't know what Vieira is going to contribute this season, he looks totally lost.

We need another attacking player of some quality before the window closes. Not that I'm breaking any news here, but it was so obvious tonight.

invisibleman18

Wasn't able to watch the game, did they bother with a penalty shootout this time?

Clrnc

Why did Ode and Kiwior play 90 mins?

Asterix

No Timber at all. Is he injured?

Meatwad

Asterix
rested after playing 2 games.

Claudius

Martinelli has had about 4 practice sessions total including two a days.
Team still missing Cala, Saka, Rice, Saliba, Raya. And Merino almost certainly on the way.
This is the end of a tournament summer. Every serious team is still ramping up.

HomeSteak

From Arteta after the game:

on any concerns ahead of the season:
Obviously we can improve. The game would have been very different if the first chance that we had, we scored but that's the goal. It makes the difference when you're in those areas in those spaces in the box, putting the ball in the back of the net and we created a situation, we had another two or three big open situations to go better but we didn’t, so we have to improve.

He knows you cannot trust Jesus and Havertz. Let's hope we have the money to bring in a real striker

Gazza M

it's getting to the point where jorginho is ahead of partey in the pecking order. partey losing his explosion and ability to cover spaces leaves only his passing game left - while still decent - isnt enough to justify a start.

Burnwinter

Gazza M it's getting to the point where jorginho is ahead of partey in the pecking order

Been the case for six months already. Since Partey's last injury.

Feel a bit worried by today's performance, although I've only watched highlights and read the summaries. Granted it's only preseason but it'd be good to see signs of a turnaround from the players who weren't quite on it last season: Partey, Zinchenko, Martinelli, Jesus, Vieira. We probably need at least one of that latter trio to fire even if we reinforce.

JazzG

Gazza M Physically washed, injuries have caught up with him. I don't think we can move him on but if we can find a way we definitely should.

Ideally we needed two CMs this window but only possible if we can move Partey.

Qwiss

Been clear since the end of the season that Partey is just going to see out his contract and go. I expect Merino will be ahead of him and Jorginho when he arrives so the Partey situation is what it is. He's one of a number of players who is in sharp decline and people need to stop pretending we can sit still and that players in the squad are going to reach peaks they haven't seen in quite some time. If anything we'll probably see as many drop offs as we do improvements. Calafiori and Merino go some way to addressing this but we need more.

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