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Arsenal - Porto, Tuesday @ 20:00 UK Time.

flobaba

I also think we have to learn from this. Take a well deserved break, and then the focus has to be to review this game, and see what we could have done much better. How we can be more patient in situations like this, and figure out the best way to hurt teams that set up this way in Europe. So the likes of Saliba and Gabriel won't feel the need to hoof the ball long to bypass the midfield, or do this very selectively and with better accuracy.

Also Ben White and Kiwior were neutralized or not used effectively as outlets under lapping or overlapping. I thought that was a miss on our part.

There's lots to work on, and both players and manager have lots of room for improvement.

Great to get through and be able to look back at the game after winning rather than the opposite. Lessons should be easier to learn.

Clrnc

daredevil It really reminded me of the ties against At. Madrid in Wenger's final season, and I would hate to face them or Inter who can do what Porto do but better. I also don't think we are clinical enough to go head to head against a Bayern, Barca or Real and outshoot them. Would be interesting to see how we fare in the next round for sure, but this tie was definitely sobering.

To be fair to Wenger, he is extremely good when facing shithousery sides like these in the past. It was the big teams he really struggled against. Even against Atleti, we would have won 9 out of 10 times. We created so many chances at home and absolutely tore them apart, but Lacazette couldn't hit a barn door and then Koscielny brainfart happened. Wenger sides always create chances after chances, that was never the issue.

Our issue from the past till now, no matter what players we had at our disposal, is that Arteta still can't really grasp the CL football. It took Pep years and years of trying to be able to grasp it and I am not surprised Arteta need more time. It's always the same tactic that stifled us, man to man marking, crowd the middle and high press us. It's almost exactly the same as what Ruben Amorim deployed against us previously and we struggled massively, especially when it comes to creating chances. We need to work on how we can effectively have a plan B or C instead of constantly being shut down. Pedro Martins deployed this to a lesser extent too 4 years ago. Coincidentally all of them are Portuguese managers...

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Clrnc
Didn’t Pep win two CL’s in 2 out of his first 3 seasons as manager….

Big Willie

Clrnc Even against Atleti, we would have won 9 out of 10 times. We created so many chances at home and absolutely tore them apart, but Lacazette couldn't hit a barn door and then Koscielny brainfart happened.

How the f do you remember all this? My mind has complete amnesia of most of the games during that period.

Clrnc It's almost exactly the same as what Ruben Amorim deployed against us previously and we struggled massively, especially when it comes to creating chances. We need to work on how we can effectively have a plan B or C instead of constantly being shut down. Pedro Martins deployed this to a lesser extent too 4 years ago.

No clue who the hell these names were until I just googled them. Have to give it to you, you're worth every penny you bosses are paying you if you can name these guys off the top of your head like that.

Clrnc

Sicario2 - Tier 1 When you have Messi even Luis Enrique can win it.

JazzG

Bryant

JazzG

He's as young as Arteta lol wtf. Guy looked like he can still play for days.

Clrnc

Big Willie The only period I totally forgotten was during the covid period. Football was so meaningless that year without crowd. I didn't even remember we got KOed by Villarreal in the semis till recently someone reminded me.

JazzG

Big Willie How the f do you remember all this? My mind has complete amnesia of most of the games during that period.

I remember that game, I was hoping praying that we would get through so Wenger could leave on a high. Win a trophy and get us back into the CL before leaving. In a way the game summed up our time towards the end with Wenger. We took them apart but had fucking donkeys leading the line.

QuincyAbeyie

Sure, like I'll fall for your prank and google all these made up people.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Clrnc agreed. I remember so little of that season.

Mirth

Bryant probably missed it in the heat of the match but credit to Porto for protecting Pepe so well, we didn't have a single opportunity to run straight at him

Clrnc

And he is still pretty quick. Incredible defender.

I remember in the past when defenders are past it they look so bad, like Keown in his latter Arsenal career.

Nowadays Pepe, Thiago are handling young top strikers very well and not beaten for pace.

Mirth

Clrnc I expect most of the current gen of young players to continue playing at a high level till their 40. The roadmap is clear, a players career shouldn't fall off post 30.

RowJimmy

Clrnc Thiago is done, Chelsea lose whenever he plays.

Bryant

Thierry sure had a lot of confidence in us during the shootout. Who knew Big Meeks is a big Arsenal fan!

Qwiss

Bryant Who knew Big Meeks is a big Arsenal fan!

Anyone who played Football Manager back in the day. I always signed him for Arsenal because he was an Arsenal fan and quality in FM when he was 19/20.

RocktheCasbah

lorddulaarsenal what HAVE you become Chris? 😁

lorddulaarsenal

RocktheCasbah I know it’s frightening. They need to start re-selling Lucozade shots!

Pepe LeFrits

Good video on the tactics of the game, Ramsdale/Raya and mentality. Worth a watch.

Burnwinter

Pepe LeFrits Good context on Saka, Rice and Øde's roles in that. Arteta gets some credit for the tactical changes too.

lorddulaarsenal

Pepe won’t like to admit it but Pepe was dogshit on our goal

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