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⚽ Crystal Palace vs Arsenal, League, Monday 21 Aug, 8pm

Ricky1985

Martinelli with a disaster half so far.

Kel Varnsen

Martinelli and Saka are often isolated 1v2. We haven't been able to set them up 1v1 as much as we should. Part of it is because Palace are hard working, but the new patterns aren't really clicking yet. Havertz is a bit lost, Tomiyasu offers very little going forward, and Ødegaard hasn't been as involved as he usually is.

KingslandBarge

naz he’s is a baller

HomeSteak

That was a very bad half by Odegaard. If we had a striker out there we would be 2-0 up.

Qwiss

This back 4 is a mess. Gabriel is a better CB than White, Whites a better fullback than Partey and Parteys a better mid than Havertz. Tomi is better on the right too.

naz

Qwiss yes please to every word you said

Claudius

Ricky1985 Nketiah is what he is. He’s no Jesus.

Qwiss

Claudius Jesus wouldn't have done any more in that half. Eddie was good.

naz

we'll score in the second, we're knocking on the door. If zinny is in the bench, he could change things. White should be on the right too

Clrnc

naz if Ayew is causing Tomi issues on the left, you don't want to see Zinchenko against him.

Ricky1985

I think Eddie has been good finding space and making things happen in and around the box (not a good target man at all though because you can't hit him on ground or air), but he has to take that second chance he had. Has to, has to, has to!

awooga83

Ricky1985 agree with this, if your a striker at a top club you have to be scoring that chance.

awooga83

Overall decent half but probably should have scored and that clinical aspect can be a key factor in dropping unnecessary points.

Martinelli and Saka not been able to influence things like you'd hope and I'm still not sure what Havertz is particularly giving us right now.

Clrnc

HomeSteak Yeah. Bar is set so low for Nketiah that we are delighted with little things he do like smart turns and strength to hold on to the ball when that's supposed to be bread and butter for an Arsenal striker. Need him to actually score simple chances when presented though.

Don Pacifico

Clrnc I agree with you to a point but I think the reason people feel positive about it is because it suggests the possibility of continued improvement from Eddie. Like it or not, he's getting plenty of minutes this season and if I see signs of improvement, I'll take that.

lorddulaarsenal

Get Trossard in for Martinelli then later take Havertz off for Nelson

naz

Clrnc they're barely getting a sniff, we can't be worrying about that

Gazza M

territorial dominance, but at what cost? our wingers and fullbacks aren't generating overloads, and our attacking mids are being jammed up in the middle.

rice has been good, and eddies been decent missed chances aside. other than that, not much is happening

MistaT

Can't say I enjoyed that.

Nketiah and Rice had their moments, and Partey was solid. But outside of those moments I wasn't feeling the shape or our approach. Felt very disjointed with Havertz, Saka, and Odegaard looking well out of ideas.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Rice has been amazing in both directions.

Very frustrating. Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard need to do a hell of a lot more to wear down that stubborn defence.

Edit: Says a lot that I forgot to even mention Havertz! What is that guy?

Don Pacifico

Think Nketiah has done a good Jesus impression. A little too good at times... 😂

Rice has been fantastic. Think all the comments about his passing range have overegged any potential deficiency there and that half has been a good example of what he can do.

Can't help but feel that we'd benefit offensively by switching ESR in for Havertz.

Tomiyasu putting in a good shift, which is nice to see after so much time out.

Overall, lacking a bit of fluency in the way we play but with all the changes made, hopefully that will come with time.

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