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Raya joins Arsenal

QuincyAbeyie

goon Why would it?

goon

Because the further out you go the more you can influence the outcome, exponentially so.

If anything but the most insane shots that are 0.01xG end up having an PSxG of over 0.5 the something doesn’t feel right, it would mean the quality of the shot would have an insane weighting on the outcome.

Claudius

goon yeah. Don’t look at goalie shot data, especially for the top keepers. This is the one position where the old ways are still best. Observe and appreciate

goon

Claudius

I always feel like first instincts are usually right when it comes to saves, before you even watch the reply.

QuincyAbeyie

goon The quality of the shot has all the weighting on the outcome, that's what the stat is. A shot that (after taking the qualities of the shot into consideration) won't be saved by most goalkeepers is supposed to have a PSxG of more than 0,5. Less than 0,5 means that more goalkeepers than not save that shot (based on the available data, which may be lacking for all I know).

Claudius

goon yeah. And problem for all of Ederson, Alisson and Raya is they don’t face a lot of shots, plus the few they face often come from countering moves. What happens to them is they they either face higher xG shots or are very prone to variance from the shots. So on shot that shouldn’t be going in ever (eg. Mudryk vs Raya or Trossard vs Alisson) just wrecks your data.

flobaba

At fault for the Willock goal. Too short. Ramsdale would have saved that!

Big Willie

You just know he would.

RocktheCasbah

Big Willie amazing that two former Arsenal players have scored nearly identical headers in the space of a few weeks.

Big Willie

RocktheCasbah amazing that two former Arsenal players have scored nearly identical headers in the space of a few weeks.

Who's the other? Just checking our results and no former player's scored against us goijg back to the Fulham loss.

RocktheCasbah

Big Willie Mavropanos, for West Ham.

Big Willie

RocktheCasbah Big Willie Mavropanos, for West Ham.

Ah ok, I get you now. You threw me on the few weeks bit thinking it was something within the last month or so. Ended up going back to the start of the year and stopped at the Fulham game.

RocktheCasbah

admittedly, I'm stretching the definition of "a few..." ☺️

Big Willie

RocktheCasbah admittedly, I'm stretching the definition of "a few

Yeah that was it haha.

Edit: By the way, I'm just taking the piss regarding my comment to Flo, that was an unsaveable header.

CPM

Big Willie I still didn't love his effort though. He has this habit of jumping early, when he has time to take a step or two and propel himself further in the air. Incidentally this was perhaps Ramsdale's biggest strength.

RocktheCasbah

I know. 😊👍

goon

Some really good sweeper keeper moves today. Really cool on the ball too generally.

Need to shed this habit of conceding from every other shot on target though.

Don Pacifico

CPM yeah, really limits his reach as a 'keeper. Was never going to save Willock's header yesterday but he was so far from even being close.

daredevil

I thought he was good today. Kept calm under pressure and helped us play out the press, and was on his toes sweeping everything up. Although, gut feeling was that he was lacking a little for the goal again.

Claudius

Was exceptional again yesterday. I remember when we played Brentford couple seasons back and Toney just monstered us. A lot of that was Raya’s direct distribution. Early yesterday, he sent 60 yard kick out to Havertz, who controlled possession. And in that moment, you could see the coherence of the squad building. We’ve replaced Xhaka with a guy who can double up as a target man, and our goalie has out of this world distribution. Our ability to vary play and create different threats is significantly improved over last season.

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