Pre-Season 23/24: Page 20 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Pre-Season 23/24

Panda

We thinking ESR can contribute at left 8 and left wing?

Mirth

Qwiss yep, they certainly shouldn’t be facing Man City with the midfield we started the game with. Also felt there was some confusion amongst the players - Havertz was pressing as a number 9 but also dropping practically in line with Rice to defend - that’s too much of an area for one player to be responsible for

flobaba

Qwiss yep, I think that's where we'd find the closest balance to what we looked like last season

Panda

Vieira omg what is wrong with him?

flobaba

Vieira. Of course.

goon

flobaba

I don’t think it’s anything new. This is exactly how we look when we’re not really up for it or switched on against an eager opponent. Seen it in the Europa League repeatedly.

Qwiss

goon not a good sign though, we were up for it in preseason last year.

Mirth

goon also United were way too aggressive for a pre season game.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

goon why hasn't Arteta sorted it out by now??

Meatwad

naz
stuart robson said it was arteta's idea.

flobaba

There was no fluidity in the midfield also. It's bigger than just not being up for it. The balance is off. I suspect we'll see the team that will actually start the season in our next game.

goon

flobaba

Being up for it is important for fluidity. It requires players to be constantly moving into space to receive the ball.

But yeah, the team needs to get used to playing with each other and also where they need to position themselves.

Big Willie

flobaba as it is you're only steaming yeah?

Streaming, yeah.

Qwiss

Mirth they were aggressive and we did nothing about it. The refs did nothing because it's US exhibition shit so the stars can't be sent off and we won't refuse them a preseason match in future because wherever we go to play decides. Preseason isn't about preparation anymore, it's just a promotional tour. Just look at the surfaces we're playing on.

goon

Meaningless penalty shootout and Vieira found a way for his stock to drop further!

flobaba

goon glad Havertz didn't have to take one

Gazza M

goon and trossard.

Clrnc

The pecking order for our duo number 8 should be

Odegaard > Esr > Havertz > Trossard > Vieira

Vieira surely needs to go on loan. If partey plays then Rice will be ahead of ESR. think arteta will surely play Havertz over ESR due to the price tag but ESR has certainly looked much better today and previously for us

Burnwinter

What Vieira needs to progress at Arsenal: five or ten kilograms of muscle, courage and hunger for involvement from start to finish every time he plays, heads up awareness on and off the ball.

We are not idiots so I'm assuming he's hearing similar things from our technical staff … it's a bad sign these things aren't happening.

lorddulaarsenal

Just catching up. Atleast the loss was seemingly down to two errors rather than being carved open by good play. Not overly concerned.

Arteta does have a bit of work though to get the new players used to the system swiftly.

Have a feeling we’ll get another attacking player in. It seems to be needing a jolt

Clrnc

lorddulaarsenal Have a feeling we’ll get another attacking player in. It seems to be needing a jolt

Yeah thought that was obvious too for me. Either a winger or a striker. Obvious weakness

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