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Declan "Deccers" Rice

Clrnc

Rohit wanted to say exactly the same. The steel and leadership he exudes in the middle of the park is immense when most of our players are shitting their pants.

The English Matthaus

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Flawless, absolutely love him.

MistaT

Excellent game, but I do wish he could have been a touch further forward and enabled to dribble through the lines.

Against a team like Liverpool he’s one of our few players with the athleticism to break lines by dribbling (vs passing).

daredevil

MistaT

He's become our best player but I'm not a fan of his dribbling. His dribbles always lead to a sideways pass which defeats the purpose of carrying it, as he just as well could have achieved the same outcome quicker by playing an early pass and saved the need to run with it.

Gunner89

That risk vs reward is simply not worth it as he's one of the few players that can track back and cover for others

Maybe with Partey next to him that's possible

Lukazan

He's the real deal. Having him infront of Saliba is a cheat code.

JazzG

Personally thought he was man of the match, an absolute monster of a performance. Even when we were under pressure this guy was making tackles and demanding the ball.

His passing has massively improved, sees the pass quickly and pings the ball around accurately.

Gazza M

I don't recall him giving the ball away, taking a poor touch or making a bad decision. can't recall many arsenal players down the years who held their nerve so well at anfield.

imagine being top of the table with partey missing most of the games. would've been unthinkable last season

flobaba

That 3 v 1 breakaway Liverpool had after Zinchenko gave the ball away would have been a sure goal if not for his ability to cover ground and stay in the play defensively. Boss baller. Best in his position in world football.

Gurgen

The first 100m bargain in football history

QuincyAbeyie

Gurgen that would be Bellingham.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

The battle for player of the season between Rice and Saliba is going to be fascinating.

HomeSteak

What do you guys think about him at 8 and Partey at 6? I have a feeling that he would be world class as an 8 as well, protect Zinchenko and help out Martinelli while also scoring more and assisting more then Havertz. But he is just so good in his role now, no idea if we should move him

Sicario2 - Tier 1

HomeSteak

It’s great until Partey breaks down 2 games later. Rice can definitely play 8 but we will be let down by the Ghanaian.

Claudius

HomeSteak we are playing our best midfield as it is. Partey’s done. He will be nice cover after the AFCON with his passing but he cannot match the physicality of Rice, Odegaard and Havertz. These 3 make us impenetrable and are a large part of why we have so much control and stability as a group.

Qwiss

HomeSteak he's played 8 for us quite a bit this season and IMO its where he had his best games. His main weakness in midfield is when the midfield gets clogged up and he can't find a quick positive pass like Partey does, if you have both their skillsets together then I think we end up having an almost impossibly good midfield.

Clrnc

There's no DM in the world I would exchange Rice for him. Not even Rodri.

lorddulaarsenal

England are blessed

QuincyAbeyie

Partey is much better.

goon

QuincyAbeyie

Than Rice?

That’s a mad comment. If there’s 6 aspects to what makes a good 6, Partey maybe shades a couple of them.

Anyway, the way Zinchenko is playing, I’m hoping people open up to Partey at RB again.

est

goon Anyway, the way Zinchenko is playing, I’m hoping people open up to Partey at RB again.

Yeah, that would be just as stupid as it was in August.

Just play Partey-Rice-Odegaard as a midfield trio. Play Kiwior or even Havertz at LB. Won't be any worse off defensively, at least he can win some headers.

Claudius

goon no he was trying to say Partey is better than Havertz. But Havertz is a much more athletic workhorse than Partey. The kid never stops running, all game long. A large part of why we are recovering and retaining the ball so well. And he’s able to do it for 90 minutes

Partey can’t do that. We’ve discussed his in-game and in-season endurance and fitness issues before.

QuincyAbeyie

goon no, than Havertz.

goon

est

Why is it stupid? I genuinely don’t understand what the objection is. When we’re on the ball he will basically be in midfield.

Certainly doesn’t have any more drawbacks than moving the best 6 in the league and telling him to spend most of his time in the final third getting into the box.

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius the you play the better player for 70 minutes. Do you think we often find ourselves in a situation where we want do make more subs but we can't because we've used them all?

goon

Claudius

Neither Partey nor Rice are final third players. There’s definitely aspects they’d do better in buildup, but that’s not what we’re trying to get out of the role.

The left 8 role is supposed to be very attacking, if Havertz isn’t the answer then we need to commit to trying the likes of ESR or Trossard, but the former will always play in big games because of his work rate and pressing.

Clrnc

Claudius he was trying to say Partey is better than Havertz. But Havertz is a much more athletic workhorse than Partey. The kid never stops running, all game long.

No. Partey can be as athletic and there are plenty of matches he don't stop running. Heck, there was even a match in the injury time he literally turned on the afterburners ran past half a dozen of players to save us from conceding a goal.

Qwiss

Claudius Partey did it plenty last season. His injuries are a problem and a reason to move on in the summer but right now with the squad we have it'd be crazy to play Havertz over Partey when both are fit. Unless Havertz can start giving us something on the ball he should never be seen as automatic starter. If we want to be a team that can win titles and really challenge for CLs our levels need to be higher in midfield. Odegaard and Rice are the standard, Partey was that good when fit last season, Havertz hasn't reached that level yet.

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