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Kai Havertz

awooga83

Yep that articulates my main issue and everything we are seeing is consistent with the player he was at Chelsea even the fact that everyone has a sense of not being sure where his best position is supposed to be. My Chelsea mates had said the exact same thing. It's just annoying to have spent so much in fee and wages when we had other things we needed to spend on.

Clrnc

flobaba

Qwiss

Clrnc the idea of Havertz as a physical presence was just desperation when people started realising he wasn't going to be any good with the ball.

Jesus stats aren't great there either, seems like a weird game to persist with him there and not throw Eddie in instead, especially after Saka got injured.

banduan

Kel Varnsen My biggest issue with Havertz is that it's a missed opportunity

this is my feeling as well, only tempered by the fact that I also feel that he was just signed on the spur of the moment, and we were generally thinking of Rice there alongside Partey.

lorddulaarsenal

If that’s the case then we’re fine to play Rice and Partey

banduan

lorddulaarsenal If that’s the case then we’re fine to play Rice and Partey

I'd agree except Partey keeps getting crocked.

lorddulaarsenal

Excellent sub appearance today.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Fantastic.

Don Pacifico

Baby steps

daredevil

He's much better as a striker. Players who can play with their back to goal and bring others in are more valuable than players who run the channels and look to score goals. The latter type in a 4-3-3 variant is only worthwhile if they can score an absurd amount of goals to forgo their lack of connectedness. People knock Nketiah for his lack of touches but Haaland is exactly the same. I bet he registered less than 10 touches today.

Qwiss

Another good moment from him, hopefully it'll help his confidence.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

I think we finally found his role.

He can be our Giroud, plan B striker coming off the bench. It removes the pressure from starting the game when he looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Plus as we all know and we have enough evidence for it, he is largely anonymous and ineffective playing as a number 8.

Segway

Some of his touches were exquisite when dealing with difficult long balls.

JazzG

He is such a good outlet when he plays up top.

Don Pacifico

Not writing Havertz off but I think it's a problem if he's our striker alternative. Pale imitation of Giroud.

Needs to come good as a midfielder.

lorddulaarsenal

Don Pacifico yeah he has to up it.

Toney would give us what we need up top as an alternative

Don Pacifico

lorddulaarsenal I'm open to Toney but can't help feel there must be someone better for the money Brentford will ask.

goon

He is very comfortable playing with his back to goal. He made a name for himself at Leverkusen facing goal.

Needs to readjust to doing to other bit again, and with confidence.

Qwiss

goon He is very comfortable playing with his back to goal.

The problem is when he's facing it.

It was a nice poke of the ball to Martinelli but let's not get over excited. If we are starting Havertz at CF regularly we're in trouble.

Clrnc

Super sub is his role currently till he fully gains more confidence. Basically he gets the Vieira treatment last year

Don Pacifico

Qwiss agreed. And I don't think we bought him primarily to play up front. The versatility will be part of what attracted Arteta but you have to think he's expected to play in midfield more often than up front.

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