Clrnc
Agree with most of what you’re saying and like I said, I’ve been impressed with Ange.
My points are not that specific though.
I’ve mentioned before that other managers could have come in, have us playing better football quicker and maybe get us top four sooner. That doesn’t necessarily lead to continued progress though and that’s my point. We’ve seen countless managers get to a certain level then fade away. Wenger did that for us for years in the second half of his reign and it led to an incredible amount of angst for everyone.
Our aims have always been bigger and while you can argue about how we got to our destination, being among the favourites for the league and CL, it was never going to be possible without wholesale change.
Even if Ange won Spurs the league in the next three years and is the Messi of managers, it wouldn’t be proof of anything. One exceptional mananger doing something somewhere does not mean it should be the expectation everywhere or the norm. I’ll take doing it the hard way than aiming for something incredibly rare.
Klopp is one of the best managers in the last decade, top 2 or 3. And he’s the only one who’s managed to even challenge City in the last 6 years. The idea that Arteta should have been able to waltz in and do it in a year and a half while playing great football the whole time, rather than 2.5 years feels like it’s failing to really take stock of where we are.
So by all means rave about Ange and the job he’s doing, just don’t try and make out that it negates the need for “the process”.