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Saka

Clrnc

He has been nowhere near as good as last first half of the season but his stats suggest otherwise...

Felt like the more touches we have in the box was due to hesitancy and extra touches don't help us score more but rather delayed attacks and allowed defenders to get blocks in

Burnwinter

With Saka he dropped off a long way after Feb last season. I think we tend to compare his best last season with his worst this season (same goes for the team as a whole).

Any gooner who isn't instantly suspicious of a stat like "accumulated penalty area touches" obviously hasn't been paying attention since the 90s anyway. Just a sign we don't get our shots away and we play against extremely deep and organised defences.

Coombs

Surely they're not counting literal touches in the box? They should call it possessions in the box, or something.

Claudius

Coombs they count literal touches in the box.
In theory it’s a stat that’s highly correlated to your overall attacking ability. Think of any football game you’re watching - the team in the opposition box is taking more shots.

Arsenal has one specific complication - we take bad touches which reduce xG quality or shot creating actions. We are a confounding team at times.

Qwiss

I want a stat for how many times you're found in a good shooting position per match. That's vs how many shots they manage would interest me.

Qwiss

Claudius Arsenal has one specific complication - we take bad touches which reduce xG quality or shot creating actions.

That lines up perfectly with the eye test.

RocktheCasbah

Claudius Arsenal has one specific complication - we take bad touches which reduce xG quality or shot creating actions. We are a confounding team at times.

Arteta needs to get Dennis in for a session with our forwards - he'd have them right in no time.

Coombs

Claudius they shouldn't, because it's how many times you have possession in the box that correlates to goals. Additional touches are only indicative of not shooting. Possessions in the box (i.e. receiving in the box or carrying into the box) would tell us a lot more.

Claudius

Qwiss there’s an analysis out there on this. I need to dig it up. But someone ran the numbers on xG when our attackers receive the ball versus when they take the shots and included player position charts. And what you see is that we are too tentatively resulting in defenders covering our guys and giving us harder shots.

You just want the boys to hit it early. They all do this - Odegaard, Havertz, Jesus, Trossard etc. just hit it like Lampard once in a while

HomeSteak

All 100 of Bukayo Saka's goals & assists

Big Willie

HomeSteak All 100 of Bukayo Saka's goals & assists

You mean Booyaka Saka. That first commentator almost slipped up and sounded like

est

HomeSteak Watching this, I think we should be looking to get him involved far more in more central areas/give him a lot more freedom in his movement.

Last game against West Ham was a good example. When he has someone providing an option out wide, he can take the inside position between the full-back and the CB and be so much more dangerous.

Hopefully the movement and positional freedom displayed against West Ham is a sign of things to come and not just a one off. The likes of Trossard, Odegaard, White and even Martinelli making runs and occupying defenders on the right gives Saka so much more to work with.

MistaT

Looks back to his best.

Some time off/away definitely helped, and to me it reinforces my concern Arteta over plays him.

Qwiss

MistaT definitely a lot more lively and sharp since the winter break. We need to bring someone in who can give him that rest more often. Or maybe just bring in a striker and let Jesus do it because I think if you want someone quality to cover for him they're going to need to play multiple positions. Jesus can do that as good as anyone you are likely to get plus he can play with Saka when needed too. And I think we have to accept that Jesus isn't a 2 game a week player anyway, he needs to fall into the rotation bracket rather than first XI.

JazzG

MistaT I think his improvement is also down to Ben White being better as well. He was a lot more isolated in recent months and it was rumoured White had been playing through injury.

Mirth

10 league goals for the season and likely to pass his tally from last year. Even more impressive considering he's not played too well prior to the Dubai break

Sicario2 - Tier 1

6 months away from being world class imo. Need a big CL campaign and a strong Euro’s and assuming he keeps the numbers up in the league he will our first WC player under Arteta.

Qwiss

Still underrated.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

He's playing harder, better, faster, stronger.

He has that light-footedness back. Was so sluggish before the break.

daredevil

est

The video is also a good reminder that he's just as effective playing on the left.

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