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Arsenal OUTS 2023 😞

DiabyKungFu

No word yet on any clauses.

goon

Not bad. Reckon it’s a good deal for all parties.

Don Pacifico

It's okay - we set a target of £50m and as expected, we've given in at under £40m if true. We still have some work to do to improve our sales but hopefully we'll continue to claw back some credibility post 'fire-sale' years.

DiabyKungFu

Yeah, we're scrambling here. Hopefully that means there's a plan to bring people in. Kudus + Fresneda would be a lowkey madness.

DiabyKungFu

Edu and Arteta playing hardball on our unwanted players all summer after hearing the criticism of letting shitty players leave too easily:

Clrnc

45m euros for Balogun is okay tbh if we have a buy back clause or sell on clause.

At the start of the window there are some here who thinks we won't get more than 25m for him.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Panda
Agree with this. We are short and can’t rely on injury prone defenders.

Every year we are one position short of a great team. Last season was central midfield and now it’s defence.

Panda

Sicario2 - Tier 1 I think we may sign another defender if we can shift Holding and Cedric too. The Timber injury put a big dent in the defence depth.

Panda

Yeah the Balogun transfer sounds like a good deal for all parties. Hopefully includes a sell-on.

The Tierney loan I suppose is better than keeping him here and not playing him especially if he wants the opportunity to go and play. Hopefully he will have a good season and we can sell him for a decent price next summer. Still find it odd we didn't find a suitable buyer this window 😵‍💫

Sicario2 - Tier 1

We can also watch Balogun in peace and not worry about him scoring goals for our rivals in Spurs/Chelsea. One less thing to worry about.

Btw if we don’t get anyone else in, and we only sell Tierney/Balogun, I think our summer window (because of the injury to Timber) has gone from 8.5/10 to 7/10 as effectively Timber doesn’t count now.

Gazza M

move sambi, pepe and nuno next, and go for 1 more high quality reinforcement

DiabyKungFu

Reckon Tierney is going to suck at La Real and we'll salary dump him to Celtic next summer.

lorddulaarsenal

DiabyKungFu probs. He’s a very limited player technically and is soo dependent on being fully fit to perform well

JazzG

Shame many of these departures are coming so late in the window, we've struggled to shift our players this window. I think probably miss out on signing an extra player or two over this.

Balogun fee is about par I think, considering he is leaving the league and we'll most likely have a sell on it will do.

Qwiss

£45m for Baloguns is great business.

Tierney on loan is appalling. What the fuck are we loaning him for, sell or keep.

Big Willie

Qwiss £45m for Baloguns is great business.

€45m not pounds. Still pretty decent amount for someone who has barely played 5 games for us and came through our academy. Pure profit for FFP.

Burnwinter

€45m for Balogun seems great. Never would've expected it even after his Reims output.

I'm guessing with Tierney he has turned down some possibilities. We should have gotten much more for him but then, he's an unfashionable type of fullback who Arteta's done his best to make even more obsolete.

TambourineMan

We've been quite unlucky with Tierney because most of the clubs (top 12 PL clubs) that could have realistically turned his head already have stellar left-backs.

Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Spurs (were never options plus have quality in the LB positions already)
Newcastle (the only club that made sense but they decided to go in a different direction with a younger player)
Brighton (Estupinan )
Villa (Moreno + Digne as cover)
Brentford (Rico Henry)
Fulham (Robinson)
Palace (Mitchell)
West Ham (Creswell)

Don't think he'd join any other team in the league and none of the teams above need a £30m upgrade on their LB. Selling overseas we were always going to be shafted so yeah, Newcastle fucked us basically.

Asterix

We're apparently getting a loan fee and all his wages covered so that helps a bit I guess. Loan fees are usually in the millions these day rather than hundreds of thousands.

Agree with TambourineMan about other PL clubs who could afford him not needing him. It's the difficulty we face selling good earners.

KingslandBarge

Asterix 110k off the books with Tierney, and a chance create, not destroy his value is a fair enough outcome given the market was so limited for a player like him this summer. He was a TotS left-back and if he can get anywhere close that level, hopefully the demand will be there next summer with two years on the deal.
I would have been annoyed if the club scrambled for a sale well below-par or looked for some termination of contract.

Think the reportedly agreed fee for Balogun is below-average, dissapointed with that. Taking a step back though, getting him renewed and making a profit was good business and a step in the right direction. Also Højlund deal is probably an outlier influencing my perception.

Don Pacifico

On Balogun, I still think the fee is low given the lack of CFs on the market . He may have been slightly further on in his career progression but Osimhen was bought by Napoli at the same age for £65m off the back of a season at Lille where he scored fewer goals. Given that, I think £50m is a decent analogue for Balogun and the fact we sold nowhere near is indicative of our inability to sell well over the last decade. Maybe people's expectations are low because of the latter but I'm convinced we should have been able to get more if we'd managed the situation better.

goon

Don Pacifico

I mean talent comes into it as well, there’s a reason why 19yr old Mbappe cost £180m and it wasn’t just because he’d also played CL football.

You think Balo is on the same trajectory as Osimhen? I’d be amazed if he had that sort of career.

Tammy is probably a better comparison and even that’s imperfect, at least he was actually starting games for Chelsea. Balo is our 4th choice CF.

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