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Wishlist 2022/2023

samthegooner

Meatwad 1000 minutes was the baseline just from rotation. I would imagine he would get almost double that which is good for a young CB in the best league in the world. But totally fair to agree to disagree. I'm a big fan of Diomande and just have visions of an eventual Saliba / Diomande pairing that dominates everyone in a few years.

lorddulaarsenal

QuincyAbeyie having Dec sit in front of the defence helps an awful lot too

samthegooner

I definitely wouldn't grab another defender prior to addressing a CM, winger and likely developmental striker first - just want to make that clear. I don't want to spend money on redundancy if we still have real needs.

samthegooner

There are more Isak rumors this morning. I doubt he will be available this summer but it certainly feels like he's our number one priority in terms of seeing if there is any chance of prying him away and then if there isn't, moving on to other targets quickly. I like the approach if that is true because Isak has it all and looks to be the best 9 in the PL at the moment, with really his only weakness being availability.

Qwiss

Isak would be unbelievable for us. Guys so silky.

samthegooner

He's incredible and he's also gotten a lot better over the last two years. His acceleration into space is insane yet he still has the very close dribbling of someone far smaller. I don't think it's realistic as I doubt Newcastle will entertain letting him go unless he pushed for it but he would be the dream.

DiabyKungFu

Michael Olise for Reiss Nelson
Xavi Simons for Emile Smith-Rowe
Bruno Guimaraes/Exequiel Palcios for Thomas Partey

Clrnc

The way he dribbles reminds me of Hleb

lorddulaarsenal

Similar yes. He’s the type of player/profile Wengs would sign

lorddulaarsenal

Does you like this?

———————-Raya
White—-Saliba——Gabriel—-Timber
——————Bruno G
———-Odegaard——Rice
Saka———-Havertz———Leao

CPM

lorddulaarsenal Don't think Bruno is a holder. That midfield would have an especially hard time in Europe, not enough quality on the ball under pressure and in tight spaces. If we're buying Bruno, I think it would be to play the LCM role and push Rice back to #6. If Rice is LCM, we need a #6 who plays like a more robust Spanish pivot – someone like Rodri really, or fit and in-form Partey.

I'd be wary of spending a lot of money on a 'flair attacker with potential' from Serie A. We need someone established who can help us win the Premier League next year. If nobody is shaking loose from a mega-club I'd rather look at someone from midtable in the Prem. I'm increasingly warming up to the idea of Eze on the left wing: excellent dribbling and ball-striking, good age, and someone who can be coached up a bit.

RowJimmy

CPM I'd rather look at someone from midtable in the Prem

This is what I'm really hoping we don't do.

Clrnc

CPM If Rice is LCM, we need a #6 who plays like a more robust Spanish pivot – someone like Rodri really, or fit and in-form Partey.

Partey and also Jorginho previously to a lesser extent has shown us that we really need someone with the vision and bravery on the ball to pass through the lines. Rice can make the runs and be athletic but he need that kind of player to complement him and make the midfield work. Partey was superb again yesterday. His body feints and passing just opened up Bournemouth time and time again. One name that I previously said wasn't good enough but is starting to convince me is Matt O'Riley.

But for Europe, we desperately need a ball carrier then can progress. Like a hleb. If wirtz is not available I hope we go for Simons

CPM

That's where we found Rice... and Havertz 😉

TambourineMan

Clrnc Could Nwaneri be the call carrier? An internal option.

TambourineMan

Havertz's recent form has put me off the idea of a new no. 9, and I think those funds would be better spent on a left winger.

Rodrygo is my top choice for that position if Real are willing to sell, but I'm also open to going big and gambling on someone like Leao. I'm cautious about Rashford, though. While there are similarities between him and Havertz, Havertz was always willing to run his socks off. Even when he wasn't playing well, we could rely on him because he put in the effort defensively. This allowed him the time needed to find his feet. I'm not sure Rashford would provide the same defensive output, which means we might not be able to support him during tough times like we did with Havertz.

We also need a Partey regen in the no. 6 role. There's such a scarcity of this skillset on the market that I'd be tempted to hold on to the cunt for another year.

I'd be satisfied if we didn't spend elsewhere, provided we secure those two positions. Perhaps a backup goalkeeper if we lose Ramsdale and maybe a promising center-back, but not at the expense of a left winger and a no. 6.

Burnwinter

I'd stick to my "Rice, Saliba, Trossard" (RST) formula for all signings.

Rices: prime age, Rolls Royce quality and physical durability, huge price tag, fully developed, will start in a key role and improve the XI.
Salibas: youth age, huge potential, medium price tag, usually aiming at a key role, won't start but ready to be tested if need be.
Trossards: any age, high quality, modest price tag, fully developed, specialist rather than key role, may not start.

Here's a few signings that haven't worked out well: Tavares, Lokonga, Marquinhos, Elneny, Pepe, Vieira. To me, none of them was an RST.

Tavares, Lokonga and Marquinhos were never big enough talents to be "Salibas": €30m wasted better spent on an elite talent
Elneny: "Trossard" money but we signed him for a key role in which he's limited
Pepe: "Rice" money for Sanllehi's gamble on a wide forward from a weak league
Vieira: "Saliba" money for a physically limited talent too old not to play regularly or be loaned

Jorginho has caused some similar problems to Elneny at times, but unlike Mo he took third place in the Ballon d'Or, so I'll give him a pass as a "Trossard".

Here's some RST signings that have made a positive impact and found a job in our squad (with the exception of Timber), whatever's been said about them since they signed (and half of them have had their controversies): White, Havertz and Jesus are "Rices", Kiwior and Timber are "Salibas", Raya, Tomiyasu and Zinchenko are "Trossards".

Based on that, here's my RST wishlist in priority order:

A "Rice" at 6 who can pass like the Devil
A "Rice" at centre forward, anything less won't upgrade Havertz
A "Saliba" to play wide left or right
A "Saliba" or a "Trossard" at left back

We can get our "Salibas" and "Trossards" from Hale End if the right talents are emerging, but we shouldn't worry about youngsters who aren't elite talents.
I'm fine if we ship out any non-starter or injury-hit player to sign these targets.
We shouldn't let anyone leave if it leaves us short.
We shouldn't make any signings that don't fit the RST mould—it almost never goes well.

lorddulaarsenal

I think bringing in a forward who may not be an upgrade on Havertz but someone who is on par and therefore would allow us to utilise Kai in the left attacking mid position from time to time would be ok.

Say Vlahovic for example

lorddulaarsenal

I think we need someone on the left hand side who can pick the lock. Currently our right hand side is much superior to our left.

Not sure who we could get. Jamal would be ace or maybe Wirtz

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Wow now ITK’s are monetising their ‘exclusives’ 😆

Panda

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Ridiculous. He's nothing but a chancer.

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