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Forest home sundee 2pm GMT

MistaT

Shady wrote:
Joke that this game isn't on t.v.

Big Willie

It is in most countries. You can find a stream easily.

I am Arsenal Till I Die

We will go 10 points above 5th place if we win tomorrow.

Have to keep on making the gap bigger every opportunity we get.

Sicario

I Am Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
We will go 10 points above 5th place if we win tomorrow.

Have to keep on making the gap bigger every opportunity we get.

It’s 8 if Utd win v West Ham at home but it’s still a good advantage.

A lot of the Prem teams that played in Europe mid-week have struggled this weekend. Didn’t see City game but Liverpool/Chelsea both lost and Spurs should have done as well.

Forest are going to be smelling blood tomorrow which I’m a little concerned about but regardless we should have enough to beat them.

Gazza M

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
as far as football matches go, this is a nice, looping full toss outside off stump on a wicket that hasn't begun to swing.

I agree.

😆

this game is a really interesting bellweather for this teams progress. looks like feel-good times are over, and the proper grind begins now. if we come out nervy and sloppy and drop points, its a sign that we still have some hang-ups from the early arteta days, and are still vulnerable to really low lows. if we come out and just take out our frustration out on them and mash them by 3 or 4, then it's a sign we're genuinely becoming a top team imo

lorddulaarsenal

Would be a big three points given other teams have dropped points.

I’d be tempted to rest everyone in the week and be strong for the Chelsea match too.

Claudius

I think we are ready for a soft rotation in front 6. I would try one of Vieira or Nketiah. See what happens.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Is Marquinhos injured?

What about Nelson? What is the point in him still being here? He can't rest Martinelli for one meaningful game? Is he that shit?

Claudius

Marquinhos is injured. Nelson is about as useful as a sack with no nuts. He keeps asking to stay to fight for his place and then does nothing.

QuincyAbeyie

Nketiah hasn't really earned a start, but wouldn't mind starting him and putting Jesus on the left wing since Martinelli has been pretty ineffective the last few matches.

awooga83

We need improvement in our attacking game as it's stuttered a lot recently. We haven't got enough from Jesus and Martinelli so we need more from then and that forward line.

Claudius

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Nketiah hasn't really earned a start, but wouldn't mind starting him and putting Jesus on the left wing since Martinelli has been pretty ineffective the last few matches.

So I actually want to see each one of these players with an otherwise full team. That’s the best platform for them to succeed. If we just stick them in next to Lokonga and other subs, it gives them less of a platform to be great. I think against Forest in an otherwise full team, each of these guys would be fine. It’s the combination of lots of these players together that’s probably a bigger issue. We know Nketiah isn’t Jesus. But if we have 10 other starters, we should win

goon

Any sort of rotation would be a mistake. I said before we need to rotate when we're playing well, not suddenly start when you're in the middle of a difficult patch. The backups are not exactly knocking the wall down either atm.

Kel Varnsen

goon wrote:
Any sort of rotation would be a mistake. I said before we need to rotate when we're playing well, not suddenly start when you're in the middle of a difficult patch. The backups are not exactly knocking the wall down either atm.

Very good point.

Claudius

It’s worth talking about rotation. There are a lot of folks on this forum who say Mikel doesn’t maximise his resources and rotate enough. I think I tend to be on the Goon/Kel side of things.

Mikel has taken us to a top 2 position not rotating much because he is making the most of his top 13 or so players. Those are the ones he trusts to carry out his instructions and outplay opponents. That’s him maximizing resources.

But there is also an opportunity to build a bit more squad resilience. And that requires playing 1 or 2 of the more capable players along with the trusted dozen. I’m thinking Vieira and Nketiah mainly. Nketiah will get more chances if he has all of Xhaka, Odegaard, Saka and Martinelli creating for him. And if it’s not working at halftime, you just rotate the guy out. It’s much lower risk than the half rotated squads we use midweek where players don’t know each other at all and expending more energy covering mistakes

Clrnc

Same lineup.

Tomi hasn't looked good since Liverpool but there's something Arteta like about having 2 inverted fullbacks it seems

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USArsenal

Tomi at LB instead of Tierney. Otherwise seems like usual first choice starters. Marquinhos on the bench

Shady

goon wrote:
Any sort of rotation would be a mistake. I said before we need to rotate when we're playing well, not suddenly start when you're in the middle of a difficult patch. The backups are not exactly knocking the wall down either atm.

I would argue the lack of rotation is what has partly caused this slump.

You need to keep people outside the first XI sharp so when they are needed to fill in the team doesn't suffer. It is a difficult balancing act between that and getting results, but this is what Arteta gets paid the big bucks for.

Remember, the famous Invincibles XI only started 2 matches out of 38.

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