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Hello Zinchenko

Claudius

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-injury-latest-zinchenko-arteta-b1129720.html

When it rains it pours. We were about to sell Kiwior to raise funds for another defender.

Clrnc

Claudius i don't believe that at all.

Claudius

Clrnc there have been strong rumours to Italy for a month about Kiwior. We are also out of money per FFP. So we need to sell if we want to do any business or depend on options like the David Raya situation.

Qwiss

Kiwior isn't one of Artetas favourites, if we can sell and replace we may as well. Our habit of holding onto players Arteta doesn't trust for too long needs to end.

Claudius

Qwiss we’ve been the most active top half team bar Chelsea since Arteta took over. The guy has turned over the whole team and then some. There is only so much change a team can absorb before you’re a basket case like the idiots in West London

Clrnc

Qwiss He's been rotated quite fairly tbh.

But if we really want to sell him, we will be left with 2 CBs. We are incredibly short there and we are already short at fullbacks. It makes no sense.

Get Itakura (whom Arteta knows all about from his days at City) to replace him.

HomeSteak

[Simon Collings] Oleksandr Zinchenko an injury doubt as squad flies back from Dubai training camp

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-fc-injury-news-zinchenko-dubai-training-camp-b1132592.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1705399112

Injured again.

We should get rid off all the injury prone players we have, this is insane. All of them on the left as well lol, Zinchenko, Tierney & Tomyiasu. Not gonna mention Partey, he should have been sold last summer.

But with Timber having that injury...I don't know, he will probably not be the same and will have muscular problems, at least in the short term. The left back position is another big mess in the squad

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Our injury plague has endured since about 2005.

daredevil

I was just thinking how Wenger's first two teams didn't have any injury prone players.

Then came van Plague and we've been troubled since.

Tbf, Aliadiere was a crock. Best talent Clairefontaine has ever had TM.

awooga83

Zinchenko has always had injury issues and when at city they managed his minutes a lot he rarely played full matches. We've taken him on and expected more from him and his body just isn't up for that.

Burnwinter

Timber was signed to buffer us against the frailty of Zinchenko and Tomiyasu. It's a damn shame that plan turned to shit but I can't fault the club too harshly for its planning, as both Zinny and Tomi are very useful players. Timber should've been learning his role from his peers all season.

Gunner89

Another day, another error

How many times has he cost us now?

I'll say it as it is - At the time, he was the right signing but he should be sold in the summer (for a tidy profit) and we need to upgrade

flobaba

Once Timber is back he'll be dropped for sure.

And once Tomi is back same with Benny Blanco.

Our defence is mega if everyone is fit and firing. Investing there would be a waste, that's the truth.

Upfront is where the bulk of our problems lie. Hopefully bagman has a plan.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

flobaba White was pretty good I thought. Seems to be playing more freely (over his injury) and looks physically top again.

Tam

flobaba Then White will quickly regain his place when Tomiyasu breaks down again. As good as Tomiyasu is, there's a clear downgrade in terms of support and chemistry with Saka when he plays.

It's a good selection of players on paper but big question marks over ability to sustain fitness and form.

Qwiss

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert I thought offensively he was really good with the ball. Same old problems in defence, thats the trade off. Probably more positive than negative yesterday over all.

awooga83

Qwiss I think he slows us down to much when he gets on the ball. Not a good defender but also not good enough to be a full midfielder. I just think we need something more then what he offers for the most part.

HomeSteak

Once Tomyiasu is back he is out of the first 11. When Timber is back healthy...it's really over. He is and always will be a liability on the defensive end.

Clrnc

Tam . As good as Tomiyasu is, there's a clear downgrade in terms of support and chemistry with Saka when he plays

Not this year. They combined very well this season in many instances

Lukazan

What was his problem at the end there when speaking with Arteta?

Bloke seems very highly strung emotionally.. could see us going deep in the CL and him having an absolute game-costing meltdown.

Gazza M

Lukazan zinchenko and white got into an argument at full time. allegedly white said something about zinnys role in the goal we conceded, which set zinchenko off. artera was telling him to pack it in basically

awooga83

Lukazan that's been a flaw in him forever. That Southampton game after messing up he's calling a huddle to get people to come together and shake them up after he made the error.

Tam

Clrnc Your sample size is about half a dozen games. In a season where Saka has been notably below the performance levels we'd expect of him for large spells. Not sure you've a strong basis for your argument.

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