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Jesus

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss hahaha, I loved Kanu I thought he was an incredible footballer and so I wouldn't have said him, but I'll take your point on Wiltord.

Big Willie

Wiltord was a quality player and probably would have been our best striker in the post RvP days. He was just overshadowed by the otherworldly talent of Thierry.

RocktheCasbah

Big Willie scored some huge goals for us, didn't he? Regardless, I was never a huge fan. Kanu, on the other hand... 😁

Big Willie

Kanu was a pure baller. Him and his trademark bag of tricks. Still remember that hatrick against the rent boys to win us the game back in the day.

Wiltord was just a shorter Henry lite. Everything he had was about 3/4s of the great man. Pace, movement, finishing and all that, just at a lower level. He was unfortunate to be up against the greatest set of strikers our club has ever had. He'd probably start up front for any team in the PL not named City and Arsenal today I reckon.

Qwiss

Wiltord would've suited the wing forward role we see so much now.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Qwiss yeah, Wiltord was always a better winger than striker for us. Was really good out wide actually, been watching a lot of old games on the souster98 YouTube channel (recommend you all follow).

Sicario2 - Tier 1

He’s a brilliant player but consistently missing big chances when we need him the most is why he is not WC.

CPM

I think he's massively overrated by Arsenal fans. I get people love the hustle and flair, but we need a striker who can put it in the back of the net. I really do like having him in the squad but I think he's one of the weakest links in the XI these days.

We don't get enough from center forward. Ivan Toney in January, please.

Coombs

Woah. Some bad takes in here.

Clrnc

Pretty sure we will go for Toney or already in the pipeline. Most ITK already mentioned as much.

Coombs people are overreacting, Jesus just had a superb game against PSV but his miss in the 2nd half was really the turning point.

Qwiss

I'm sympathetic to idea of Jesus being upgraded on, he's great when he's on it but his form goes up and down quite a bit. We seen it here last season and we've seen it for years at City. I'm not sure I think Toney is that upgrade though, and I quite like Toney.

Qwiss

Clrnc he was pretty bad in general today, barely got into the game.

Bryant

Clrnc

Yeah Toney would be nice, but feels there's a huge risk taking a guy who has stopped playing professional football for such a long time and launching him back into it.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Clrnc

You mean miss in the first half?

flobaba

In an ideal world, we would have a top class striker up front (we know what that truly looks like), Jesus would be our second choice and Eddie would be playing for Sheffield Utd.

But I get it. Kane left. Liverpool have an ageing Salah, City have Haaland, and that's it for the entire premier league when it comes to strikers. It's a sad state of affairs in that department for world football in general.

GooneriC

Terrible miss today , imagine that chance falls to Son or Kane .. they'll bury that and it's 2-0

Burnwinter

The trouble with Jesus is that making a mess of defences, putting himself about vigorously and missing a few easy chances is as good as he gets. He's very useful, but he doesn't get better than this.

When Saka is jaded and Martinelli and Trossard are simultaneously injured, we are relatively toothless. Spurs shut down Ødegaard and there was no one else to back Saka up in the end.

Clrnc

Burnwinter xG and chances created saw that we are pretty much 10th again for a lot of those metrics. First 2 seasons Arteta was 2nd last in those and last year we were top 4.

Mirth

Qwiss

Says he feels 100% again and I think you can see it. He wasn't really amazing yesterday but he kept plugging away and trying things, never hid. Right wings obviously not his best position but I think against lesser opponents he can do a job there.

Pepe LeFrits

Qwiss Says he feels 100% again and I think you can see it. He wasn't really amazing yesterday but he kept plugging away and trying things, never hid. Right wings obviously not his best position but I think against lesser opponents he can do a job there.

He wasn't but I still thought he was our best attacking player by a distance (at least of those who started), he was the only one who was continually available and able to receive and retain the ball and carried a lot of our threat in the second half too. I think he's probably our best wide player after Martinelli and Saka (though I'm not convinced playing him wide when those two are out, with Eddie at CF, is necessarily our best option).

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