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CL/EL 21/22

KingslandBarge

jones wrote:
I think Ray means the extra defensive 3-4-3. Usually you use two attacking wing backs and/or at least one more adventurous CM, Southgate basically played seven defenders and three forwards last time around.

I don't like what he keeps doing, capping the team's potential in both the last tournaments. Worth saying though that last time around, Germany (when they were obliterated) had a slightly more defensive 3-4-3 then England's. Certainly something like seven defenders and three forwards.

Clrnc

😆 Anyone seen this miss yet?

QuincyAbeyie

https://streamff.com/v/19504c

Jesus's reaction at the end. 😆

Ray

jones wrote:
I think Ray means the extra defensive 3-4-3. Usually you use two attacking wing backs and/or at least one more adventurous CM, Southgate basically played seven defenders and three forwards last time around.

Yeah that’s what I meant. Usually have 1 winger/wingback / 1 FB playing in the wide positions. Chilwell and James in England and Chelsea’s case of two actual FBs.

Clrnc

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
https://streamff.com/v/19504c

Jesus's reaction at the end. 😆

What the fuck 😆

I mean I thought it was going to be those typical tap in misses but he actually had an amazing first touch to fool Ter Stegen then did that ffs. Would have probably put Benfica through too with the last matches to come.

Ray

How on earth is Herrera and Idrissa getting picked ahead of Veratti and Wijnaldum.

QuincyAbeyie

City so much better drilled than PSG, but badly need a striker. Should go all out for Haaland in the summer.

Mirth

PSG aren't going anywhere fast with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi all having the license to not track back

Segway

Oof Thiago's goal last night was sublime. His technique is on another level.

flobaba

Mirth wrote:
PSG aren't going anywhere fast with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi all having the license to not track back

Yep. It’s going to be a real challenge for Poch. PSG needs a manager that commands instant respect and for the superstar players to buy into his vision. You can have maybe one or two players who you want to excuse from doing the hard work because of their genius and ability to turn the game single-handedly. I think PSG was at their best when Di Maria was at his prime - a selfless superstar. But when you’ve got 3 guys who think the dirty work is beneath them you’re in big trouble. Neymar isn’t going to change at this stage in his career, and neither is Messi. Maybe Mbappe, but I think his ego is a bit too big already.

jones

Segway wrote:
Oof Thiago's goal last night was sublime. His technique is on another level.

I hate how much I enjoyed that one. Outrageous technique

jones

flobaba wrote:
Mirth wrote:
PSG aren't going anywhere fast with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi all having the license to not track back

Yep. It’s going to be a real challenge for Poch. PSG needs a manager that commands instant respect and for the superstar players to buy into his vision. You can have maybe one or two players who you want to excuse from doing the hard work because of their genius and ability to turn the game single-handedly. I think PSG was at their best when Di Maria was at his prime - a selfless superstar. But when you’ve got 3 guys who think the dirty work is beneath them you’re in big trouble. Neymar isn’t going to change at this stage in his career, and neither is Messi. Maybe Mbappe, but I think his ego is a bit too big already.

I think PSG can be perfectly fine with all pressing just high as they're doing now and not tracking back deep into their own half, that team minus Messi got into a CL final and knocked plenty of big clubs out of Europe, the very same team won 2-0 at home vs City. Their problem yesterday was that City had a better midfield and was much better drilled, Guardiola has his team for six years now while Pochettino hasn't been there for even a year. Also Pochettino is a bit shit anyway.

jones

Unreal how Sebastien Haller got nine goals and two assists in his fifth CL match yesterday yet wasn't good enough for West Ham. Would love to see him here, if he had just a little more pace he'd be the perfect striker. Great work rate and link up, unbeatable in the air, scores all types of goals

Clrnc

How the hell is this Milan team losing at home to Liverpool's reserves + Mane and Salah?

Bryant

Clrnc wrote:
How the hell is this Milan team losing at home to Liverpool's reserves + Mane and Salah?

Yeah, pretty sad. Kessie's Bosman demands for 9m euros salary after tax is hilarious based on how he played today.

Asensio's left foot still is special: Simple video sharing (streamwo.com)

Modric still continues to play very well, and he's 36.

jones

Kessie has been poor all season. Shame he's had his head turned by PL money

Asensio is one of the biggest injury regrets in football. Before he tore his ACL he'd score a goal like that every other week, bar Messi I don't think there's any player who has such ridiculous aim. Always seems to hit the inside of the post

Bryant

ter stegen looks like kepa now 😆

Bryant

Clrnc

Salzburg the youngest team to ever qualify for the KO Stage. Pretty impressive how they constantly loses their best players and managers and still manage to play attractive football year on year at the highest level.

Their inexperience doesn't seem to work against them at all.

Qwiss

Their managers age and inexperience doesn't seem to hinder them either.

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