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Martin Odegaard - Redux

Gazza M

the rot had set in by the time auba arrived. we certainly could've attracted someone like bernardo during those ozil/Sanchez years

Captain

The problem is that Wenger was the bailing bucket, while many thought he was captain.

Gazza M

don't buy that line of thinking, but I can't be arsed relitigating Wenger's latter years for the umpteenth time

Don Pacifico

Wilson wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
Ah, more revisionism.

Even if Wenger isn't our current problem, he was certainly a problem towards the end of his reign. Let's not forget that. This ship was sinking before he left, so I have little doubt that if he were still our manager, the current predicament wouldn't be much, if at all, better.

Yeah, the ship was sinking, I agree. He did deliver CL football though until the last couple of years, and his name did help with getting players. Silva coming here doesn't feel out of place among Ozil, Sanchez, Auba, Cazorla. Our draw is lower today than Wenger's final years.

I think that's only true because we're further along in the timeline.

In terms of the draw of our managers, we still managed to bring in Partey last summer, so I'm not sure how much difference it makes. Silva is disinterested because we're not in the Champions League (or even close), so I'd posit that we still hold appeal based on our prestige but are losing out based on our league position.

Rohit

GooneriC

Stupid stupid Arsenal , what happens when we wait for Odegaard and our secondary targets move on .. then Real decide to keep him and we are stuck with Xhaka and Elneny and lose Willock.

GooneriC

Or , he is the only target left and Real rinse our pockets for him

Coombs

So what's a better move then? Just buy whoever you can easily get?

GooneriC

No , just don't be chasing Odegaard all the way to the end of the window and then get desperate and pay over the odds for him or not get him at all. He isn't that great a player.

Coombs

Better than anyone else we've been linked with.

HomeSteak

Real did not register him for the new season. Expect a load of link to him now

TambourineMan

If we can't negotiate a good fee in light of this news and convince the lad to join - we are truly hopeless.

Gazza M

HomeSteak wrote:
Real did not register him for the new season. Expect a load of link to him now

is that true? I saw a Spanish journo say varane was still included in the squad list you're referring to, and odegaard and ceballos weren't. might just be a dodgy list

Rohit

If that is true then this should happen and soon enough, unless Real attach an obnoxious price tag to him.

HomeSteak

Gazza M wrote:
HomeSteak wrote:
Real did not register him for the new season. Expect a load of link to him now

is that true? I saw a Spanish journo say varane was still included in the squad list you're referring to, and odegaard and ceballos weren't. might just be a dodgy list

That might be the case, will look it up. I saw a post from that cringe tv show they have over there saying he was not, and he has no number, not present on la liga website either, you cannot buy a shirt with his name and all that.

Tier 2 for Real.

Summary: Isco, Mariano, Marcelo and Jovic are for sale but no offers have arrived for them. From the players that RM have received offers for, Odegaard seems to be the most likely to be sold.
Only one with offers to buy is Odegaard. Jose Angel Sanchez really wants to sell him because he feels Arribas is a much better player. He also told Ancelotti this.

I find that interesting, this is a pretty poor squad for Real standards, in the middle of the pitch they are fucked, the starters are old or very old like Modric. Almost all of them are injured and still, they don't want to keep Odegaard.

Gurgen

GooneriC wrote:
No , just don't be chasing Odegaard all the way to the end of the window and then get desperate and pay over the odds for him or not get him at all. He isn't that great a player.

But he will be pretty great soon. Maddison is probably ahead of him at the moment but I don't expect that to last if Odegaard moves somewhere where he gets consistent game time.

lorddulaarsenal

Martin Oh Dear God

Gazza M

Gurgen wrote:
GooneriC wrote:
No , just don't be chasing Odegaard all the way to the end of the window and then get desperate and pay over the odds for him or not get him at all. He isn't that great a player.

But he will be pretty great soon. Maddison is probably ahead of him at the moment but I don't expect that to last if Odegaard moves somewhere where he gets consistent game time.

age, health, price tag, technical ability and upside (as I see it) slant me towards odegaard. maddison will bring some more goals and possibly a few more assists, and minimal settling in period. there's not clear daylight between them imo, as has been intimated

Clrnc

Gurgen wrote:
GooneriC wrote:
No , just don't be chasing Odegaard all the way to the end of the window and then get desperate and pay over the odds for him or not get him at all. He isn't that great a player.

But he will be pretty great soon. Maddison is probably ahead of him at the moment but I don't expect that to last if Odegaard moves somewhere where he gets consistent game time.

Yeah would agree with this. Odegaard is not your traditional goal or assist getter he is more of an indirect influence. The pre assist guy that links everyone together. He will be great once he fully adapts

Rohit

I honestly think he has the game to get numbers. In his time here he took shots, didn't pass them up. He didn't hang yards from the box either. It's mainly about movement with him I feel if he has to score more. Arteta said this of ESR last season, that the staff expects goals from him in his position and they will work with Ødegaard on the same. I am quite certain he has assists in him if not goals. He is a really good passer and sees the game well. Ødegaard is a multiplier kind of a player. He will improve the team around him. We definitely need him or Maddison. Just hope we can get it done soon.

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