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Arsenal Set To Be Subject Of Amazon’s Next ‘All Or Nothing’ Doc

Burnwinter

There's something hilariously melancholic about the way he responds to not yet having won the CL with them. Haaland's supposed to be about doing that but it'd be extra hilarious if he was actually Pep's exit ticket ...

RocktheCasbah

Gurgen wrote:
I finally watched this cringefest and to my surprise Arteta wasn't even the biggest Captain Cringe on the show. That title goes to Carlos Cuesta hands down. Imagine going to work and this guy giving you advice, holy shit. Honourable mention to Mikel for that lightbulb and Josh for his hugs though.

Apart from the massive cringe, I mostly found the documentary incredibly boring. There was almost zero interaction with the players on a human level, we basically only saw Xhaka's home and that was immediately the most interesting part of the show for me.

A shitty failed PR push befitting the garbage club we've become. But I guess it resonates with a certain audience, probably the same people who read arsenal.com's excited tweets.

Come on Gurgen, don't mince words, tell us how you really feel!

lorddulaarsenal

Best thing is he watched it! He’s added to the viewer count as much as Ty!

MistaT

Have to agree with Gurgen on how boring it was.

I started the Juventus and City ones and bailed, only being an Arsenal fan pulled me through this one.

Sunderland Till I Die is the only decent version of these..

Don Pacifico

MistaT wrote:
Have to agree with Gurgen on how boring it was.

I started the Juventus and City ones and bailed, only being an Arsenal fan pulled me through this one.

Sunderland Till I Die is the only decent version of these..

Sunderland one was a completely different pitch to be honest vs the Amazon ones. But agree it was much more interesting and insightful (because it was less polished and more candid).

For reference, best football.doc I've watched re: club football is QPR: The Four Year Plan. Was filmed when Briatore and Ecclestone took over the club - was fascinating and a pretty damning indictment of their leadership showing they had no clue what they were doing.

Qwiss

Gurgen wrote:
I finally watched this cringefest and to my surprise Arteta wasn't even the biggest Captain Cringe on the show. That title goes to Carlos Cuesta hands down. Imagine going to work and this guy giving you advice, holy shit. Honourable mention to Mikel for that lightbulb and Josh for his hugs though.

Apart from the massive cringe, I mostly found the documentary incredibly boring. There was almost zero interaction with the players on a human level, we basically only saw Xhaka's home and that was immediately the most interesting part of the show for me.

A shitty failed PR push befitting the garbage club we've become. But I guess it resonates with a certain audience, probably the same people who read arsenal.com's excited tweets.

😆 Pretty much.

Sicario

Don Pacifico wrote:
For reference, best football.doc I've watched re: club football is QPR: The Four Year Plan. Was filmed when Briatore and Ecclestone took over the club - was fascinating and a pretty damning indictment of their leadership showing they had no clue what they were doing.

This

The Leeds Utd one was good.

Diego Simone one very underrated too.

However, none of these can touch Last Dance aka greatest sports documentary of all time.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Anyone watching the Palace Academy? Great insight in what young players have to go through to make it.

Thanks for this. Just started watching.

lorddulaarsenal

Goodstuff. My eldest son is five and has only recently started footy sessions. Not going to put any pressure or expectations on him but I would like to help him along if I can, if only so he gets more satisfaction and enjoyment from playing.

Personally think all the standard drills most coaches use are too basic and crude in their nature. What would you guys say are the most important things to influence their game positively?

For me other than attitude I’d look to focus on ball control and reading of opponents motions to allow them to react. Basically have them watch Modric and Xavi clips on repeat!

Rohit

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Personally think all the standard drills most coaches use are too basic and crude in their nature. What would you guys say are the most important things to influence their game positively?

https://trainingground.guru/articles/arsene-wenger-top-players-have-radars-in-their-heads

Wenger's insights can be fascinating and I had found the above very interesting too.

“The problem in football is that you learn how to play [the wrong] way round - first execution, then decision making and perception last."

lorddulaarsenal

Thanks for the share Rohit. Very interesting article.

I’ll be bellowing “Scan harder son. Scan as hard as you can boy!” at training later.

Qwiss

I was actually reading about how to train young kids to improve that the other day. Guess I should follow up start making my lad do it

Burnwinter

Or get in the stands and yell "Pictures, Granit! Pictures!"

lorddulaarsenal

Qwiss! wrote:
I was actually reading about how to train young kids to improve that the other day. Guess I should follow up start making my lad do it

I perfected my scanning in nightclubs. Give the lad a head start on that front too

Anzac

Sicario wrote:
Don Pacifico wrote:
For reference, best football.doc I've watched re: club football is QPR: The Four Year Plan. Was filmed when Briatore and Ecclestone took over the club - was fascinating and a pretty damning indictment of their leadership showing they had no clue what they were doing.

This

The Leeds Utd one was good.

Diego Simone one very underrated too.

However, none of these can touch Last Dance aka greatest sports documentary of all time.

Had to look it up and IMO it is disqualified as it's about MJ and The Bulls and not football. ;D

Qwiss

Evolutionary advantage!

When my kid started I tried to focus on too much I think. At 5 the most important stuff if just playing and getting kids used to contact. When my eldest started playing proper 5 aside matches at 6 they were all looking at each other, the first thing they had to get over was the fear of getting hurt and the fear of hurting others. Other than that control while running. Almost every kid loves fancy little tricks, I see more drag backs per game than passes. It almost never works though because they don't have the control after the trick beats the first man to keep going. The kids who score the most and win matches for my lads team are the ones who can move quickly with the ball at feet.

Anzac

Qwiss! wrote:
Evolutionary advantage!

When my kid started I tried to focus on too much I think. At 5 the most important stuff if just playing and getting kids used to contact. When my eldest started playing proper 5 aside matches at 6 they were all looking at each other, the first thing they had to get over was the fear of getting hurt and the fear of hurting others. Other than that control while running. Almost every kid loves fancy little tricks, I see more drag backs per game than passes. It almost never works though because they don't have the control after the trick beats the first man to keep going. The kids who score the most and win matches for my lads team are the ones who can move quickly with the ball at feet.

I recall an article years ago that talked to the likes of Juninho & others, and he was saying in Brazilian youth development they didn't consider positions or roles before age 10 and mostly played Futsal to develop technique and control, and didn't play on a full sized pitch until they were 14 which was also about the time they started to develop tactics and positions/roles.

AW used to talk about technique as being akin to the foundationd for a house around which everything else was built upon.

RocktheCasbah

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:
@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Anyone watching the Palace Academy? Great insight in what young players have to go through to make it.

Thanks for this. Just started watching.

Just watched the second episode, in bits watching Billy's journey.

Makes you realise how truly special guys like Saka & Smith Rowe are to have come through that system - and at Arsenal too.

lorddulaarsenal

Seems like so much pressure. You have to have luck on the way as well but with those guys it’s clear they both have the talent and aptitude.

It’s amazing how many technically gifted talents either don’t make it or don’t fulfil their potential. I thought Zelalem was a definite future star. He’s currently dicking about in the MLS.

lorddulaarsenal

Qwiss! wrote:
Evolutionary advantage!

When my kid started I tried to focus on too much I think. At 5 the most important stuff if just playing and getting kids used to contact. When my eldest started playing proper 5 aside matches at 6 they were all looking at each other, the first thing they had to get over was the fear of getting hurt and the fear of hurting others. Other than that control while running. Almost every kid loves fancy little tricks, I see more drag backs per game than passes. It almost never works though because they don't have the control after the trick beats the first man to keep going. The kids who score the most and win matches for my lads team are the ones who can move quickly with the ball at feet.

Yep early stages about letting them enjoying it and also deciding if it’s something they’re interested in.

Hard not to be influenced by their surroundings. Saw an older group playing a match on a pitch near us today and this douche bag of a dad made his son cry as he was moaning he wasn’t moving enough.

Don’t ever want to make your own child uncomfortable.

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