Major problem with this is that the fans are fucking morons.

A great effort but quite confusing in terms of the role that a government can play in football. In Africa whenever governments get involved in fixing football, FIFA comes down hard on them and sanctions the associations.

So it was quite appalling to me to see Boris Johnson openly interfering in football with no sanction for the FA. But I guess it’s fine for a European government to interfere when Uefa and fifa are at risk of losing their prize assets. So fuck Ceferin and all the other saviors of football for the hypocrisy they continue to exhibit when it’s their actions over the last two decades that have led us directly to this crisis.

My understanding is FIFA dislikes government intervention or interference in the running of national FAs, which FIFA sees as an extension of itself. In other words, if Boris was to say he’s taking over control of the FA or contradicting their governance. All they’ve done in this instance is support the FA and I’m sure actions resulting from any review will do the same.

Otherwise football is already subject to laws, e.g tax, work permits, safe standing, COVID etc and various reviews over the years, and to a greater extent in other countries.

Diaby KungFu wrote:

Major problem with this is that the fans are fucking morons.

I’ve seen this said a few times as if you’ll have Ty and Robbie running the club. All it means is members (and most members/match going fans are usually of sound mind) get voting rights on Execs and Board members. You could still end up with criminals who run the club into the ground or join a Super League, but overall the fans are always in the back of the mind to a much greater degree.

Claudius wrote:

A great effort but quite confusing in terms of the role that a government can play in football. In Africa whenever governments get involved in fixing football, FIFA comes down hard on them and sanctions the associations.

So it was quite appalling to me to see Boris Johnson openly interfering in football with no sanction for the FA. But I guess it’s fine for a European government to interfere when Uefa and fifa are at risk of losing their prize assets. So fuck Ceferin and all the other saviors of football for the hypocrisy they continue to exhibit when it’s their actions over the last two decades that have led us directly to this crisis.

That's Africa though, this is England.

Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others...

Just follow the German's model. Perfect

The 'German model' has produced one of the world's most competitive leagues. You never know who's going to win it any given year!

(honestly it might work with a few fixes)

The German model is fine and in need of a few fixes to prevent mistakes like Leipzig, Hoffenheim and Bayern as well. The latter have built up absurd financial reserves because of a couple golden generations and their predatory ways since the 70s, Hoeneß started the whole tapping players up via the media trend back then and also introduced American commercialising methods to increase revenues.

Doesnt mean the model itself is at fault. The model is the only reason clubs like Dortmund Gladbach or now Frankfurt can work themselves up from fighting relegation to CL participation within a few years of scouting talents and selling them at a premium. I watch both and even if Bayerns choke hold on the league is an eyesore it's a much more entertaining competition than England where it's a pissing contest whose owner puts in the most blood money.

In theory it should increase competitiveness in the PL. As things stand all the PL clubs are rich enough to do something really good, the only thing stopping them are the ones who rely on owner funding. The German model will do more for FFP than the FFP rules ever did.

goon wrote:

My understanding is FIFA dislikes government intervention or interference in the running of national FAs, which FIFA sees as an extension of itself. In other words, if Boris was to say he’s taking over control of the FA or contradicting their governance. All they’ve done in this instance is support the FA and I’m sure actions resulting from any review will do the same.

Otherwise football is already subject to laws, e.g tax, work permits, safe standing, COVID etc and various reviews over the years, and to a greater extent in other countries.

Yep, these moves would benefit FIFA and the national FAs so they won't have any problems with this.

50+1 is unlikely to be used as anything more than a threat at this stage. Far more likely that there will be an independent regulator.

Clrnc wrote:

Just follow the German's model. Perfect

but... ThE FAns ArE Fucking mOronS :boris:

A conservative government possibly dabbling in a bit of football socialism, never thought I’d see the day...

Diaby KungFu wrote:

Major problem with this is that the fans are fucking morons.

JazzG wrote:

A conservative government possibly dabbling in a bit of football socialism, never thought I’d see the day...

Diaby KungFu wrote:

Major problem with this is that the fans are fucking morons.

No they're not, who are you voting for to run us

Jeremy Corbyn
Piers Morgan
Mad Jens