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Has Arteta Truly Turned it Around?

jones

I really don't like Arteta but even I hope that's a fake quote. Fuck sake

Burnwinter

It's real, the press conference video is easily found at present.

Thinks he's Dirty Harry but he's actually Cobra. He raises the stakes with each of these little performances, he's so hard-line it would be hard to argue for clemency in his case.

Now he either delivers top four or he's made himself a chump.

AAStyle

Great we have also the lunacy proper of a Rodgers but without his level (which is high tier at best, not top tier). This guy is making the club look like a joke.

flobaba

Only thing that would have made the Amazon documentary even more appealing to me is if goon had done that interview

KingslandBarge

I'm not as taken aback by the quotes. By now it definitely feels like a steady muted continuum of cringe is ever present, I have accepted that. Think he could have been more grateful for player that had a huge hand in the first two, the only two trophies he's won as manager. He seems to be doubling on the need for a culture change, with his misguided self-affirmation. Proof will be in the results as BW says. His awkward process and collateral damage has to be justified by results.

KurtEisner

He just couldn't help himself, "I'm the solution, not the problem", I mean for fucks sake. He's awfully sure of himself for a guy that finished 8th two seasons in a row.

Klaus

flobaba wrote:
Only thing that would have made the Amazon documentary even more appealing to me is if goon had done that interview

I keep thinking of this meme someone made:

Anzac

A marked difference when compared to the recent interviews with Ange following Celtic's Old Firm win.

Clrnc

Interesting. We are basically a wide men team. Crossing merchants to get into the box. Almost never attacked through the middle.

You can see the real passing teams, dominating possesssions in Chelsea, City, Pool, Brighton.

FEBravo

Burnley 😆

swider

Clrnc wrote:

Interesting. We are basically a wide men team. Crossing merchants to get into the box. Almost never attacked through the middle.

You can see the real passing teams, dominating possesssions in Chelsea, City, Pool, Brighton.

This is exactly why I insist that our midfield is really poor, they sit very deep, rarely play quick progressive passes, even less often make good runs with the ball etc.

RowJimmy

swider wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Interesting. We are basically a wide men team. Crossing merchants to get into the box. Almost never attacked through the middle.

You can see the real passing teams, dominating possesssions in Chelsea, City, Pool, Brighton.

This is exactly why I insist that our midfield is really poor, they sit very deep, rarely play quick progressive passes, even less often make good runs with the ball etc.

What I see here is a clear superiority of City and Liverpool, with Chelsea following. Then us, Tottenham, Brighton, United, all pretty much the same level. Only difference from the table is that West Ham doesn't look as good here as they do on the table and Brighton look better.

Asterix

Brighton need a striker; West Ham generally well organised in defence.

Burnwinter

FEBravo wrote:
Burnley 😆

😆 If this was some kind of shape puzzle you'd assume they were playing City every week.

I'm not sure touches convert to control, Leeds' map is indicative on that front. High energy but you wouldn't say they were controlling things.

Klaus

FEBravo wrote:
Burnley 😆

😆 I love that the right side of their own box is blue.

banduan

Clrnc wrote:

Interesting. We are basically a wide men team. Crossing merchants to get into the box. Almost never attacked through the middle.

You can see the real passing teams, dominating possesssions in Chelsea, City, Pool, Brighton.

what are you talking about, Brighton has almost the same map as us?

Anyway, this is a slightly different take on the same theme.

Ricky1985

There's nothing that outrageous from Arteta re Aubameyang. Although, he does imply very strongly that the squad were not having Auba any more. Which is a different way to consider how this played out.

I really liked Arteta's responses in both videos. I especially agree with what he says about signing the wrong players being more damaging in the long run than being a little short on options. I also liked what he said about the smaller, fit-for-purpose squad being preferable to a large but unbalanced squad.

It was also nice to see more personality from him than I've noticed before. I think he spoke really well and I enjoyed listening to him!

Rakim

As the new guy, I guess it´s only fair I first post my short opinion on the whole situation we are in right now, as well as the manager.

If I said I really like our current team, I´d be lying. There´s a few of pieces missing and we are far away from the elite as of now. However, there´s a lot of potential there, and very few if any players left that are genuinely unlikable. So if we play our next cards right, and with a bit of luck I think we could really grow.

As for Arteta, I don´t think he´s a cunt nor a fraud. I think he is trying his best. The appointment of him was always going to be a risk. I think the only fact that all the Arteta out/in guys can agree on is that it is blatantly obvious that he is a rookie manager. He is basically learning the job at Arsenal. Also, no matter how his time goes at Arsenal, I think he has a lot more talent as a coach then the Lampards or Oles. I think he could be a really good coach, I´m just not sure as of now if the Arsenal job was too soon for him. I guess we´ll find out. Also, while some fans think that the new youth approach is just a facade to have excuses, I think it´s a genuine change of approach after Arteta saw that the first one was destined to fail. And I hope we keep it up in the summer.
I don´t have a big problem with the january window, of course it´s disappointing we didn´t sign any players but considering the previous summer window I give the board the benefit of the doubt.
As for the outgoings, I don´t agree with all the fuss about it. None of the players contributed anything this season. Hopefully the few that are left also leave in the summer. Although it´s gonna be hard to do such a big overhaul of the squad. So I´m a bit worried about that.
As for Auba, I loved him. He was the last real world class player we had left. But it was time to let him leave. It´s sad the way it happened, but we had no other choice. Also, it´s much better for him to go this way then the Ozil route. I hope he manages to turn things around in Spain. Still, considering the last 18 months, we didn´t lose a lot with his departure. I think it was the best solution (hehe) for everyone involved.

I think that´s enough for now. Long story short, I still have some doubts about our future but like to be optimistic and not to harsh on coaches/players, as I think most of them are trying their best and it´s really not an easy situation they/we are in right now. And just bashing everyone and going through the same cycles with different people is not the way for me.

banduan

welcome to the Tolly Rakim!

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Rakim wrote:
As the new guy, I guess it´s only fair I first post my short opinion on the whole situation we are in right now, as well as the manager.

If I said I really like our current team, I´d be lying. There´s a few of pieces missing and we are far away from the elite as of now. However, there´s a lot of potential there, and very few if any players left that are genuinely unlikable. So if we play our next cards right, and with a bit of luck I think we could really grow.

As for Arteta, I don´t think he´s a cunt nor a fraud. I think he is trying his best. The appointment of him was always going to be a risk. I think the only fact that all the Arteta out/in guys can agree on is that it is blatantly obvious that he is a rookie manager. He is basically learning the job at Arsenal. Also, no matter how his time goes at Arsenal, I think he has a lot more talent as a coach then the Lampards or Oles. I think he could be a really good coach, I´m just not sure as of now if the Arsenal job was too soon for him. I guess we´ll find out. Also, while some fans think that the new youth approach is just a facade to have excuses, I think it´s a genuine change of approach after Arteta saw that the first one was destined to fail. And I hope we keep it up in the summer.
I don´t have a big problem with the january window, of course it´s disappointing we didn´t sign any players but considering the previous summer window I give the board the benefit of the doubt.
As for the outgoings, I don´t agree with all the fuss about it. None of the players contributed anything this season. Hopefully the few that are left also leave in the summer. Although it´s gonna be hard to do such a big overhaul of the squad. So I´m a bit worried about that.
As for Auba, I loved him. He was the last real world class player we had left. But it was time to let him leave. It´s sad the way it happened, but we had no other choice. Also, it´s much better for him to go this way then the Ozil route. I hope he manages to turn things around in Spain. Still, considering the last 18 months, we didn´t lose a lot with his departure. I think it was the best solution (hehe) for everyone involved.

I think that´s enough for now. Long story short, I still have some doubts about our future but like to be optimistic and not to harsh on coaches/players, as I think most of them are trying their best and it´s really not an easy situation they/we are in right now. And just bashing everyone and going through the same cycles with different people is not the way for me.

When you B on tha Mic, I'll listen.

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