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Arsenal exits Jan 2022

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
goon wrote:
It would be mad without him even putting the shirt on in a competitive game, especially since all signs point to him actually being a good player.

Even if Arteta wanted to get rid the club should block it.

This is where you'd have to worry about the club. Arteta is whatever as a manager, some think he's good some think he isn't but what club in world football would give him free reign like this? Appointing him coach was a mistake IMO but upgrading him to manager was insanity. The people above him have no idea what they are doing.

Honestly for me it's the other way around. Arsenal FC is a soulless corporation that happens to sell football, I've come to terms with that a while ago. Fuck knows what Edu is doing but generally speaking nobody above the manager has any relation to football, Dein was a piece of shit but at least he understood the sport and the game. Which is why the position of manager has to be filled by someone who knows what they're doing

Gazza M

I'm reserving judgement as lequipe are a shit source, and are usually shit stirrers when French players at non-french clubs aren't getting game time. English joirnos have said he'll come back, so I'll choose to believe that until proven otherwise. but yes, massive massive red flag if saliba isn't given a fair chance to prove himself. the only legit reason I can think of is if saliba threw a major hissy over not being allowed to play in the cup final.

HomeSteak

Gazza M wrote:
I'm reserving judgement as lequipe are a shit source, and are usually shit stirrers when French players at non-french clubs aren't getting game time. English joirnos have said he'll come back, so I'll choose to believe that until proven otherwise. but yes, massive massive red flag if saliba isn't given a fair chance to prove himself. the only legit reason I can think of is if saliba threw a major hissy over not being allowed to play in the cup final.

Yep, Lequipe & GFF seem to hate us and love running bad shit about us, fuck em. We will see what happens.

Claudius

Gazza M wrote:
I'm reserving judgement as lequipe are a shit source, and are usually shit stirrers when French players at non-french clubs aren't getting game time. English joirnos have said he'll come back, so I'll choose to believe that until proven otherwise. but yes, massive massive red flag if saliba isn't given a fair chance to prove himself. the only legit reason I can think of is if saliba threw a major hissy over not being allowed to play in the cup final.

It’s a real wait and see situation. We can all break windows if the club does something moronic, but for now let’s save our anxiety and ire.

lorddulaarsenal

Saliba did look crap for our youth teams mind

jones

Gazza M wrote:
I'm reserving judgement as lequipe are a shit source, and are usually shit stirrers when French players at non-french clubs aren't getting game time.

Any examples other than Saliba?

L'equipe is definitely a shit source but then again it wasn't them who made a mess out of Saliba's situation. Wait and see obviously but this is the transfer rumour section, not like there's a lot to do other than get irrationally happy and angry at alleged transfers

Qwiss

jones wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
This is where you'd have to worry about the club. Arteta is whatever as a manager, some think he's good some think he isn't but what club in world football would give him free reign like this? Appointing him coach was a mistake IMO but upgrading him to manager was insanity. The people above him have no idea what they are doing.

Honestly for me it's the other way around. Arsenal FC is a soulless corporation that happens to sell football, I've come to terms with that a while ago. Fuck knows what Edu is doing but generally speaking nobody above the manager has any relation to football, Dein was a piece of shit but at least he understood the sport and the game. Which is why the position of manager has to be filled by someone who knows what they're doing

The manager is chosen by the people above him and in that regard they fucked up massively. Then they handed him added responsibility. Arteta is not a good manager but the way they hired a rookie with no structure and then promoted him as they managed to have even less structure is pure incompetence.

jones

Again I agree 100% I'm just saying I'm expecting absolutely nothing from the people above him. Arteta on the other hand used to captain this club and was Peps assistant he shouldn't be this dumb and also not so arrogant two years into his first job.

mdgoonah41

if we sell saliba because arteta doesnt like him, its a complete and total failure. arteta is probably going to get sacked by january. then we'll again be searching for a manager and we'll be out a potentially world class centerback prospect.

goon

Ornstein says Villa bid £25m for ESR (rejected, no interested in selling obv). The audacity.

QuincyAbeyie

Buendia, Grealish and ESR sounds like a fun attacking trio with Watkins ahead of them. Obviously they won't get ESR but they've done well since almost getting relegated.

Clrnc

Fuck them. If Arteta didn't flop against them the previous season they would have been relegated.

Anyway I am okay to selling them ESR. Straight swap for Grealish please

Klaus

We should put in a £24 million + £1 bid for Grealish.

mentalvortex

Villa are certainly being ambitious.

Apparently they also had a similar bid turned down by Southampton for Ward-Prowse.

jones

I'd actually consider selling him if he's still as injury prone in a year's time. Obviously not for 25m, but I don't like how much time he's missed through injury already. He made his debut close to three years ago and has maybe 30 top flight appearances so far.

goon

Clrnc wrote:
Fuck them. If Arteta didn't flop against them the previous season they would have been relegated.

Anyway I am okay to selling them ESR. Straight swap for Grealish please

You're mad, I wouldn't swap ESR for anyone. I think he'll be a better player than Saka in the long run and I think Saka is a super talent.

The Mail reporting that Madrid want him too.

Might just be clever agent work, but need to get that deal sorted asap.

Clrnc

His lack of appearances wasn't down to injuries only though. He wasn't up the pecking order obviously under Emery we had much better options and he's young. He was too young under Wenger.

He was injured for most part of the season on loan in Germany but he was after being fit this season in October after 2 months he was used by Arteta in Dec against Chelsea. So rightly this was his first season that he is a regular

Clrnc

goon wrote:
Clrnc wrote:
Fuck them. If Arteta didn't flop against them the previous season they would have been relegated.

Anyway I am okay to selling them ESR. Straight swap for Grealish please

You're mad, I wouldn't swap ESR for anyone. I think he'll be a better player than Saka in the long run and I think Saka is a super talent.

The Mail reporting that Madrid want him too.

Might just be clever agent work, but need to get that deal sorted asap.

You won't swap a potential for a finished article that is worth more than 80m now? I love ESR but that's a no brainer, although Villa would ask us to fuck off if we even have the audacity to ask 😆

goon

Definitely not, if you want to cash on ESR I'd rather enjoy him for 5-6 years and then sell him for £80m+

Would you swap Saka for Sterling too? Or Martinelli for Ziyech?

Clrnc

Wrong comparison, but I will swap Martinelli for Vinicius Jr and Saka for Mbappe for example

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