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Anzac

Jed wrote:
Good luck Sead.

IMO his signing along with those for Xhaka and Mustafi point to a long term issue in our recruiting strategy.

The greater concern is that we are still making the same sorts of errors despite 2 managerial and structural changes later.

Coombs

Crazy that people want a DM after we signed Partey. He is the quintessential DM for a transition team. Need a couple of guys to play in front of him.

Anzac

Coombs wrote:
Crazy that people want a DM after we signed Partey. He is the quintessential DM for a transition team. Need a couple of guys to play in front of him.

I think this is because of the 'talk' one of the reasons Partey joined being he was promised more freedom on the pitch to get forward - hence the talk of him in a B2B role even if in a twin pivot set up.

Anzac

https://dailycannon.com/2020/12/22-goal-arsenal-target-available-for-just-e12m-in-january/

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

No signings yet?!

goon

Coombs wrote:
Crazy that people want a DM after we signed Partey. He is the quintessential DM for a transition team. Need a couple of guys to play in front of him.

I don't think Partey as a DM is the best use of him personally. He can definitely do it, but it's a bit of a waste of someone who actually has the ability to drive forward with the ball. It would have been like using Vieira as a DM.

Clrnc

2 Box to Box midfield is the way to go. We need to find a new Gilberto for Partey.

I don't think Bisouma is that guy at all.

lorddulaarsenal

Gilberto was a screen

lorddulaarsenal

About as box to box as they come these days

BWooley

Twitter rumour that we are looking at Ryan Christie of Celtic. Anyone who has a view on him?

Klaus

Would love for Tam to chime in on this too. The last bloke we signed from Celtic was pretty good!

QuincyAbeyie

Just read a bit in his thread on Talkceltic.net and it's almost only complaining about him. 😆 The first reaction when someone posted a link saying we might be interested was "Is it new years day or April fools day ffs".

Klaus

😆

QuincyAbeyie

Wonder if Neuhaus is gettable? Don't watch Gladbach much, but apparently he's great.

Gazza M

Clrnc wrote:
2 Box to Box midfield is the way to go. We need to find a new Gilberto for Partey.

I don't think Bisouma is that guy at all.

gilberto wasn't really B2B at arsenal, much more of a disciplined sitter with very rare forays forward

Gazza M

goon wrote:
Coombs wrote:
Crazy that people want a DM after we signed Partey. He is the quintessential DM for a transition team. Need a couple of guys to play in front of him.

I don't think Partey as a DM is the best use of him personally. He can definitely do it, but it's a bit of a waste of someone who actually has the ability to drive forward with the ball. It would have been like using Vieira as a DM.

I keep seeing people say this. its important to note there's a difference between a 'DM' and a midfielder who picks the ball up off the defense to orchestrate attacks from deep, and drive forward with the ball at his feet. partey isn't 'wasted' in that role as I've seen people repeatedly suggesting. I'd want partey in that role, because if you play him further up the pitch like ramsey, you're relying on another midfielder to get the ball to him in good positions, and no due respect whatsoever, we don't have that midfielder. in games where partey and ceballos or xhaka started together, our play was mainly filtered through ceballos/xhaka in that bizarre corner-back position and the game passed partey by. I don't want to see horseshit like that, the game horse-shoeing around partey. we need him monopolising the ball as much as possible. that's the role Vieira played, driving forward with the ball at his feet, but rarely playing ahead of the ball and forgoing his string pulling duties

goon

But that's the thing, if Partey is assigned the role of being the deepest midfielder, he cannot drive forward with the ball, I've seen him lose the ball 2-3 times already attempting to do that and he will end up inhibited like he was against Leicester.

Also giving him a box to box role doesn't mean he hangs around up there waiting for the pass, he can pick it up from deep himself and do his thing, look busy without having to worry about leaving gaps behind him or his positioning on the pitch.

I don't really want a dedicated DM like Gilberto next to him either, but I do wasn't someone who's disciplined who can move the ball forward quickly.

Clrnc

Christie is average.

Neuhaus is an interesting suggestion, saw a few matches of him in UCL, very accomplished CM.

Coombs

Partey is a defensive CM. We need two attacking CMs to play with him or we're a low block team.

lorddulaarsenal

BWooley wrote:
Twitter rumour that we are looking at Ryan Christie of Celtic. Anyone who has a view on him?

Bagpipes Bruno Fernandes

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