This whole episode is extremely disappointing. I will personally find it difficult to get behind Partey. The online disclosures are highly incriminating. I appreciate that some may want to express restraint and reserve judgment but if Partey was a Spurs/ Chelsea/ United player, I am sure everyone here would be opining that the least he should be given is a suspension other than some calling him names.

Klaus wrote:

We absolutely don't have to be the kind of club that suspends our captain, a bloke who had done more for the club than anyone else on our payroll, simply for arriving on a different time than agreed on to England after visiting his sick mum, while we continue to play and back a rapist just because he got off on a technicality.

A couple of points:
1 - Race / colour is irrelevant;
2 - at this point it is only alleged and the only person talking is the person making the allegations;
3 - what is this technicality people are referring to?

Anzac wrote:

Klaus wrote:

We absolutely don't have to be the kind of club that suspends our captain, a bloke who had done more for the club than anyone else on our payroll, simply for arriving on a different time than agreed on to England after visiting his sick mum, while we continue to play and back a rapist just because he got off on a technicality.

A couple of points:
1 - Race / colour is irrelevant

I think you read that word wrong, Anzac.

Klaus wrote:

Anzac wrote:

A couple of points:
1 - Race / colour is irrelevant

I think you read that word wrong, Anzac.

My bad so I did = apologies.
Looks better/clearer after I clean my reading glasses.

Gurgen wrote:

All this also begs the question whether we actually do any background checks before signing players. From reading about his lifestyle and the way he treats women in general, I gather he is a bit of a sociopath and wouldn’t be out of place in the Netflix documentary on Hunter Moore. Surely we could have known this and thought, maybe it’s not a good idea to spend 50m and pay someone hundreds of thousands of pounds a week when there is a significant chance that person may do something incredibly stupid at any moment?

I agree with everything you said except this. Abit of a stretch to blame the club especially as firstly its not easy to find some true nature in personal time, you do your own due diligence in footballing and mental aspects but the rest is not clear cut. Secondly he might have only developed this after his huge pay increase at Arsenal, he was paid peanuts at Atleti and there was absolutely no signs he was like this there.

The rest of your posts though is spot on. Thanks you and Klaus for that viewpoint. We have to do the right thing.

Horrible situation.

I'm going to have read through all the messages because I feel I might be misunderstanding exactly what Partey is being accused of.

I won't change my mind on the club's actions though, and I absolutely believe Partey should be treated as innocent until proven otherwise.

Gurgen wrote:

All this also begs the question whether we actually do any background checks before signing players. 

Given we don't seem to be able to run a proper medical check if players like Tierney and Tomiyasu (and perhaps Partey himself) pass them, it's certainly believable we may not run competent background checks either.

invisibleman18 wrote:

Gurgen wrote:

All this also begs the question whether we actually do any background checks before signing players. 

Given we don't seem to be able to run a proper medical check if players like Tierney and Tomiyasu (and perhaps Partey himself) pass them, it's certainly believable we may not run competent background checks either.

Tomi isn't injury prone before coming here. Same was Partey too, barely missed any match for Atleti.

Tierney is a calculated gamble because he is young. He isn't the fittest but he wasn't as terribly prone as now either.

Having read through it now I think it's pretty clear that he's guilty. Unfortunately given how difficult the court system is I reckon there is a good chance he's never found guilty of anything though, but I sincerely hope he never plays for Arsenal again.

In the event he is convicted I hope we sue him à la Chelsea vs Mutu

Very sticky wicket to suggest the club should suspend the player.

Innocent until proven guilty.

As for the rest of the clubs actions over the years, I do think the club needs to reset it values after a shocking drop in recent years. Very hard to see what we stand for in recent years.

Well, he's starting in the Emirates Cup game. Will be interesting to see the reception he gets, and if there is anything noticeable in his performance. The club have seemingly been very deliberate in not showcasing him on social media.

ohboy!!! wrote:

Very sticky wicket to suggest the club should suspend the player.

Innocent until proven guilty.

As for the rest of the clubs actions over the years, I do think the club needs to reset it values after a shocking drop in recent years. Very hard to see what we stand for in recent years.

We are owned by Americans. Walmart owners. You know what we stand for.

ohboy!!! wrote:

Very sticky wicket to suggest the club should suspend the player.

Innocent until proven guilty.

As for the rest of the clubs actions over the years, I do think the club needs to reset it values after a shocking drop in recent years. Very hard to see what we stand for in recent years.

Innocent until proven guilty is an instruction to a judge or jury. It has no relevance outside the courtroom. Outside the courtroom every person and organisation is free to decide whether and to what extent they consider someone to be innocent or guilty.

Looking at the goal celebrations today, the team are still with Partey. Lots of little pats on the head and hugs.

What reaction did he draw from the fans?

Nothing was noticeably different.

I find it incredible that we keep playing him. Quite done with Arsenal to be honest, I can’t see myself cheering for a team with this guy in it. Perhaps I’m overly emotional on this issue as people close to me have been a victim of rape, but this has really cut the cord with this club for me. Rape may not be one of Arteta’s “non-negotiables”, but it’s certainly one of mine.

good on arsenal. can't be joining the twitter mob based on accusations. he denied it and they're backing their player over the words of call girls. if he did it they'll prove it and he'll pay the price. until then he needs to deliver on the pitch.