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Arsenal @ Liverpool | Mon 28 Sep 8pm | Mac n' cheese, chicken wings

Clrnc

goon wrote:
Mirth wrote:
In this system our forward is just a blunt tool to press.

Is it? Or does Laca just make it look like that?

Auba presses just as much on the left, he just does a whole lot more too.

Yes. I think it's make to look like this because Lacazette is really limited when he lost his pace these days. Basically a glorified Welbeck.

Put a better and faster striker there we could play him in all day long. Even with Lacazette's dwarf pace we played him in twice today

Sicario

Xhaka was shocking tonight.

Ceballos should have started.

Laca unlucky tonight. Whatever you say about him he has scored more than Auba this season.

goon

Qwiss! wrote:
Mirth wrote:
Oh well, everyone else is going to drop points at Anfield as well so whatever. Just smash United and get some points off City and we'll call it a successful month.

Not convinced. We struggled against West Ham and were dominated today. Beating Fulham looking like less of an achievement the more they play too. I think we need big changes.

Without midfield signings we won’t do anything interesting this year. Ideally we need both Aouar and Partey, but especially the latter.

Then bin this 3-4-3.

Coombs

Arteta got scared, I think. The West Ham performance maybe played on his mind a bit, and Anfield is an intimidating place these days.

Hopefully he learns from it and is more aggressive against them next time.

It'll help when he's got Aouar and Partey to choose from.

Panda

Claudius wrote:
Saka has to look at Pépé and Willian and wonder what he’s doing wrong. He delivers better crosses on both flanks, better through balls when he goes inside, plus he can also score. Why does Arteta bench him?

I think he manages his minutes it would have been his 3rd game in 8 days(?) He will play on Thursday no doubt.

Gazza M

USArsenal wrote:
Dropping points at Liverpool and being dominated by them (and somehow feeling like we might have been able to nick something if the bounces were right) is not the end of the world. I, along with most of you, expected nothing from this game, so losing 3-1 was hardly shocking. At least for me.

Yep lets keep our heads. Unbeaten in 60 games there. A team like pool will push your team to the extremes and expose your weaknesses, and we saw more than a few out there. Big big few days coming up in the market

Qwiss

Carragher now pointing out what I was saying during the game, Tierney got no help. What's the point of a back 5 if he's getting isolated like that?

Doc

Thought the tactics where decent, Liverpool are just way above right now, was a great performance by them.. Team selection though was poor, Arteta seems to like to rely on the experienced players, its been a feature of his for a while.. Laca, Elneny these guys need to be relegated to bench players sooner rather than later...

Also Saka needs to be starting whenever possible ffs

goon

Klopp tearing into Keane for calling Liverpool sloppy 😆

Sicario

Kel Varnsen wrote:
I have no idea how anyone could think Elneny should start over Ceballos.

He should start ahead of Xhaka. It’s telling the Swiss was taken off instead of Mo.

Mirth

Klopp just said this was a basically perfect performance and they tonked Chelsea last week. That's what we were up against it.

Claudius

Panda wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Saka has to look at Pépé and Willian and wonder what he’s doing wrong. He delivers better crosses on both flanks, better through balls when he goes inside, plus he can also score. Why does Arteta bench him?

I think he manages his minutes it would have been his 3rd game in 8 days(?) He will play on Thursday no doubt.

The alternative is to put him in the main games ahead of Willian etc. I don’t think it’s controversial to say he’s amongst our 3 or 4 most talented outfield players

Qwiss

goon wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Not convinced. We struggled against West Ham and were dominated today. Beating Fulham looking like less of an achievement the more they play too. I think we need big changes.

Without midfield signings we won’t do anything interesting this year. Ideally we need both Aouar and Partey, but especially the latter.

Then bin this 3-4-3.

Im crossing my Fingers for new signings and dropping this formation after this tough run.

Qwiss

Mirth wrote:
Klopp just said this was a basically perfect performance and they tonked Chelsea last week. That's what we were up against it.

So we let them play exactly how he wanted. 😉

Clrnc

How is he not sent off for this? Blatant

KingslandBarge

should be a retrospective ban if justice exists

Clrnc

Qwiss! wrote:
Carragher now pointing out what I was saying during the game, Tierney got no help. What's the point of a back 5 if he's getting isolated like that?

Average positioning

On the contrary, Willian was too hardworking tracking back and it spoilt our attacking shape and right hand side outlet

goon

Qwiss! wrote:
Mirth wrote:
Klopp just said this was a basically perfect performance and they tonked Chelsea last week. That's what we were up against it.

So we let them play exactly how he wanted. 😉

It’s interesting if you hear him talk, they basically pressed with loads of players to kill out passing game out the back.

USArsenal

goon wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
So we let them play exactly how he wanted. 😉

It’s interesting if you hear him talk, they basically pressed with loads of players to kill out passing game out the back.

Makes you wonder why we dont bypass the short passes sometimes while playing a team like this. Wouldn't you think it might keep them a bit more honest instead of crowding us at the back all the time?

Claudius

The way Pool beat us and Chelsea should be concerning for the league. They’ll run away with it.

Bigger picture. This team has nothing to do with our overall targets this season. If we got handled by Liverpool or Bayern, it would tell us little about where we are going to finish this season.

The big learnings from this game: play Ceballos and Saka. And get Partey then Aouar to improve midfield over the season.

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