I'm physically disgusted right now.
I'm steaming over this one. How did this happen.
Seriously though, did Kavanagh pretend that he hadn't blown the whistle for full time? I have never seen this happen before but it just goes against every instinct you have.
I’d love to know what the actual rules are with regards to the ref blowing the final whistle.
Miss the clear foul 2 seconds before it, but get a penno. I just can't understand the point of VAR to miss something like that.
goon wrote: I’d love to know what the actual rules are with regards to the ref blowing the final whistle.
I think that's allowed. I remembered in the Bundesliga the match ended and the players changed, referee asked them to come out 10 minutes later to award a penalty or something.
From a VAR referee in a Q&A
If an incident occurs in the final seconds of play that the referee does not spot and the VAR is reviewing it, what happens once the final whistle has been blown? Will the referee allow a match to play for too long if they know something is being checked? We’ve got a process in place for that. When an incident is being checked, the first thing that happens is the VAR will automatically engage the referee. They’ll press a red button and tell the referee they’re checking a decision. While the check is taking place and the referee is fully aware that time is up, they will give a single blow of the whistle to stop play. They will blow their whistle, stop play, put their left finger to their ear and put their palm out to show everyone a VAR is checking the decision. Everyone stops on the field of play. The check will take place, the VAR will come back and say: ‘check complete.’ The referee will then blow for half time or full time. If the review advises a decision is made, the referee will indicate that, the screen will show the incident and a decision will be made.
If an incident occurs in the final seconds of play that the referee does not spot and the VAR is reviewing it, what happens once the final whistle has been blown? Will the referee allow a match to play for too long if they know something is being checked?
We’ve got a process in place for that. When an incident is being checked, the first thing that happens is the VAR will automatically engage the referee. They’ll press a red button and tell the referee they’re checking a decision.
While the check is taking place and the referee is fully aware that time is up, they will give a single blow of the whistle to stop play. They will blow their whistle, stop play, put their left finger to their ear and put their palm out to show everyone a VAR is checking the decision. Everyone stops on the field of play. The check will take place, the VAR will come back and say: ‘check complete.’ The referee will then blow for half time or full time. If the review advises a decision is made, the referee will indicate that, the screen will show the incident and a decision will be made.
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/neil-swarbrick-answers-your-questions-on-var-before-it-comes-to-the-premier-league/
Clrnc wrote: goon wrote: I’d love to know what the actual rules are with regards to the ref blowing the final whistle. I think that's allowed. I remembered in the Bundesliga the match ended and the players changed, referee asked them to come out 10 minutes later to award a penalty or something.
What the fuck
No way 😆
That particular referee (from a Mainz game) has a different interpretation of the rules though...
[size=small][font=Georgia,]"I received the info from [the VAR control centre in] Cologne that it was a hand ball. Because I already blew the half-time whistle, I asked the players to wait. I then reviewed the incident on the touchline," Winkmann said, adding that he then made the decision to award a penalty to Mainz.[/font][/size] [size=small][font=Georgia,]"It is like it is. The half-time whistle only interrupts the game. If it had happened after the final whistle, we would not have been able to review it. That's a fundamental thing in the regulations,"[/font][/size]
[size=small][font=Georgia,]"I received the info from [the VAR control centre in] Cologne that it was a hand ball. Because I already blew the half-time whistle, I asked the players to wait. I then reviewed the incident on the touchline," Winkmann said, adding that he then made the decision to award a penalty to Mainz.[/font][/size]
[size=small][font=Georgia,]"It is like it is. The half-time whistle only interrupts the game. If it had happened after the final whistle, we would not have been able to review it. That's a fundamental thing in the regulations,"[/font][/size]
Must've been Bayern who benefited from that shithousery.
It would be kind of weird if VAR couldnt be used in incidents happening very late in the match.
Claudius wrote: From a VAR referee in a Q&A If an incident occurs in the final seconds of play that the referee does not spot and the VAR is reviewing it, what happens once the final whistle has been blown? Will the referee allow a match to play for too long if they know something is being checked? We’ve got a process in place for that. When an incident is being checked, the first thing that happens is the VAR will automatically engage the referee. They’ll press a red button and tell the referee they’re checking a decision. While the check is taking place and the referee is fully aware that time is up, they will give a single blow of the whistle to stop play. They will blow their whistle, stop play, put their left finger to their ear and put their palm out to show everyone a VAR is checking the decision. Everyone stops on the field of play. The check will take place, the VAR will come back and say: ‘check complete.’ The referee will then blow for half time or full time. If the review advises a decision is made, the referee will indicate that, the screen will show the incident and a decision will be made. https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/neil-swarbrick-answers-your-questions-on-var-before-it-comes-to-the-premier-league/
This guy blew three times though.
To be honest, aside from all the technicalities, Maupay is the real idiot. actually puts his arm up to stop it. Wtf does he think will happen?
VAR was generally used well today and it’s been much better this season as a whole.
goon wrote: Claudius wrote: From a VAR referee in a Q&A https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/neil-swarbrick-answers-your-questions-on-var-before-it-comes-to-the-premier-league/ This guy blew three times though.
Claudius wrote: From a VAR referee in a Q&A https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/neil-swarbrick-answers-your-questions-on-var-before-it-comes-to-the-premier-league/
This guy and the referee from the Mainz game that Clrnc mentioned have different views. This guy believes you can continue after the final whistle. The Mainz referee believes the final whistle is final. I tend to think the final whistle should be final. Otherwise when does the game actually end. Can we stop the captain from lifting the trophy to say 'hey, you conceded a penalty that we need to go take!"?
Seems like the pundits on my tv confirm it's not allowed, because VAR didn't spot the incident and the only reason ref reviewed it was from the protests of United players.
BHA should protest this result. Ask for the draw when the final whistle was blown. The Premier League will probably side with the referee but this shouldn't be left alone. I doubt this happens the other way. Do the BHA players have the gall to protest and if they do, does thee referee restart the game?
Manure is shit.
Clrnc wrote: Seems like the pundits on my tv confirm it's not allowed, because VAR didn't spot the incident and the only reason ref reviewed it was from the protests of United players.
The ref can't initiate VAR.
Anyway, someone on twitter posted the actual rules. You're allowed to review after the final whistle, providing the ref hasn't left the field of play. It makes sense too.
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