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The New Film Thread

Asterix

This film looks really interesting and thought provoking. There's a good review here - https://www.smh.com.au/culture/movies/forget-every-film-you-ve-seen-before-nine-days-changes-everything-20210705-p586w8.html

Qwiss

The Forever Purge is a low point for the franchise and that really is saying something.

goon

I can't believe they managed to squeeze out 5 movies after the first, genuinely one of the worst films I've seen. Didn't bother with the rest.

Qwiss

I like a couple of them, Anarchy and Election Year. They're not great cinema by any means but they can be fun and inventive. This new one was neither of those things.

Big Willie

Don't think I've watched any of them since the first.

Burnwinter

DUNE hype machine finally starting to get going after a one year delay, second trailer will be out this Friday allegedly and there's an "IMAX experience" happening around the place that includes the first ten minutes and some other material.

I'm a fan of the first couple of books, don't love how the adaptation is shaping up, Villeneuve and his whole team look to have been very cautious and delivered a canon version that doesn't open up the abundant interesting angles on the material, but the visual scale looks vast.

Asterix

Just watched the trailer - it's very focused on the visuals for sure, with a bit of back story around Paul and Chani.

QuincyAbeyie

I didn't really agree with BW that the visual scale looked vast at the time of him writing it (from the first trailer), but it sure does now.

Burnwinter

By comparison to most other adaptations it is vast, I guess.

QuincyAbeyie

That's probably true, wouldn't know anything about that.

Coombs

Orange and teal, persistently underexposed. Typical, boring, and ugly. Shame.

Burnwinter

Agreed, he makes quite ugly films and the colour grading is utterly banal. His BLADE RUNNER film was terrible. A dependable hack.

QuincyAbeyie

Scarlett Johansson rightfully suing Disney. Apparently she had in her contract that she'd get a share of the box office revenue, then they decided to release her film on Disney+ and said that this doesn't count as box office. Such a piece of shit company (like most of the big ones). Surely the bad PR, especially regarding other actors and actresses, can't be worth whatever they'll save from not paying her what she's owed?

Gazza M

a breach of contract is a breach of contract.if they didn't cut her in on the streaming money it's a dirty move. in saying that, the optics of a multi millionaire actor suing essentially because theatres were forced to close during a pandemic isn't great either.

goon

Thought it seemed a little petty from Disney, but I wonder if it's an issue of precedence. If they give in to her there's probably a ton of other contracts that would then have to pay out on for both this film and past/future projects.

Burnwinter

A contract's only as enforceable as whatever consequences of a breach can be mobilised.

All I see is two brigades of lawyers, one probably much larger than the other, working out the margins.

Disney would have been advised to wear the legal and economic risk of streaming BLACK WIDOW early for commercial reasons, with Johansson's counsel then doing their bit to defend her end of the contract.

Disney is not a person who displays good or bad conduct, and Johansson's business setup is not a person either, really, though you can imagine the actor taking this personally.

The streaming thing is the state of the industry and its revenues, Villeneuve is supposed to have had to fight tooth and claw to get DUNE a proper theatrical entrée before it gets distributed more broadly.

Asterix

I can totally understand Johansson's position, but I also feel that, hey, I'm not going to the cinema any time soon and I still want to see movies. So what is the choice? Why do movies exist if not to be seen, and to be debated on internet chat fora?

QuincyAbeyie

According to what's written online the suit included an email to Johansson saying the release would be according to a traditional theatrical model and "we understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of box office bonuses."

So I guess the choice would've been to actually discuss that with her.

Anyway, who knows what is true or not, but if she wins this case it'd be huge for a lot of actors. Hollywood is infamous for using a percentage of the profit as a part of the contract and then artificially inflating costs. A high-profile case like this would hopefully ensure more water-tight contracts with less room for being clever in the future.

Burnwinter

The choice was to breach the contract, that's the point.

Film actors in general (as opposed to celebrities like Johansson) are heavily unionised in the US through SAG (SAG-AFTRA now), it's actually one of relatively few powerful, militant unions.

The politics of this instance are a bit more like rates of prize money for women on the PTA tour I guess.

Klaus

I just watched Malignant. Holy fucking hell. That was AMAZING. James Wan is the new Frank Henenlotter.

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