goon wrote:
jones wrote:
That's not what you said though, you talked about Conte being a bad fit for us because of our spending which is just not true since Wenger left, our net spend since then is more or less the same as the clubs you've mentioned in that time frame. Conte doesn't want his club to have a high wage bill either he wants the club to sign the players he wants and get rid of the guys he doesn't want, literally the same thing Arteta has done since day one.
When did I say that? The only thing I recall saying about Conte is that he's a bad fit because he wants immediate success (i.e. competing for titles). He would absolutely advocate more signings like Luiz and Willian. You could make a case for Chelsea, but there's no chance in hell you can even begin to compare our spending with the other two.
You talked about Spurs and our model being unlike that of the other (presumably) richer clubs, maybe I misunderstood you. If you were on about immediate success vs signing youth I'd say Spurs are closer in age to the other clubs than to us.
And yes our spending since Emery or Arteta took over is very much comparable to that of the other clubs, the figures are there to look at. We're bleeding money on outgoings and haven't exactly been frugal in getting our targets in.
You're right that Conte didn't exactly emphasise signing youth in the past but it's not like he only signs geriatrics, his two signings so far for Spurs were 21 and 24. Longer term planning doesn't mean just signing kids, it means being smart about what you pay for these kids and what you get for your outgoings, neither is the primary responsibility of the manager but you can't blame Conte for that when under Arteta we're spend big, ruin transfer value of our outgoings and run up a massive deficit ourselves.
These are the same two signings he's complaining about lacking experience whilst also claiming the squad has been weakened 😆
I'm not blaming Conte and I think Arteta is pretty much cut from the same cloth. Main difference is the latter is privileged to be at a club like this and has to work within whatever framework he's given. The upside is he's forcing the club to spend on quality while still building a young squad for the future as per the clubs MO. Conte is a big name that didn't even respect the hierarchy at bigger clubs than Spurs, it's his way or the highway.
I agree with the gist of what you're saying, I even gave Arteta credit for getting his higher ups to give him money to spend despite having shown fuck all why he'd be the right guy to spend it. Not sure there's much of a framework he has to operate within, feels pretty much like he's doing as he pleases. Edu is technically his boss yet for all we see he's his contract negotiator, if he has an issue with a player the player's gone and he's 100% the solution etc.
Either way main point is Conte would be annoying to read statements from as your club's manager but so are Arteta's sound bites to a large portion of the fan base, and one has at least some credentials to show for it.
