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The Wishlist 2020/21

Qwiss

If we can't get Odegaard maybe but they'd want crazy money for him and we have too much else to do.

goon

I think he'll likely stay at Norwich for another year, they'll want to keep him to help with the fight to stay up. He'll then have two years left and we can bring him in then. He'd be the perfect squad filler to beef up the wings.

Clrnc

He won't be a filler. He is quality. If we buy him he will probably start every match.

The last time someone tore up the Championship in this fashion was probably James Maddison

Coombs

I'd sign both him and Odegaard, but it feels like Buendia is more attainable.

Coombs

FWIW, I think that both Buendia and Odegaard play their best as right-sided mezzale like De Bruyne, and that ESR is the same but well-suited for the left. I really think we need to move to a real 433, which Arteta claimed he wanted to do.

lorddulaarsenal

Time to flex those ESL muscles

Grealish
Sancho
Plus many more

QuincyAbeyie

Why? We no longer need good players to get there, Kroenke can just pocket the cash and call it a day.

Ray

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Why? We no longer need good players to get there, Kroenke can just pocket the cash and call it a day.

I'm sure this is just the initial phase, eventually there will be competition / different levels of funding based on where you finish in the league to incentivise. This equal share was just to get all 12 of these clubs to join in the first place and risk their position with Uefa / leagues etc.

This equal funding will give all 12 the opportunity to build a starting base team.

Claudius

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Why? We no longer need good players to get there, Kroenke can just pocket the cash and call it a day.

What? You do realise that all the best players will flood into this league. Arsenal will be no exception. We aren’t just going to willingly be the runt of the bunch

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius wrote:
Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Why? We no longer need good players to get there, Kroenke can just pocket the cash and call it a day.

What? You do realise that all the best players will flood into this league. Arsenal will be no exception. We aren’t just going to willingly be the runt of the bunch

Of course I realize that. I'm not talking about City, I'm talking about us. Why would we not willingly be the runt if we still get paid a ton of money to be so? In the PL if you stop investing you go down and stop being relevant. In the ESL we have a lifetime spot.

Klaus

I think Quincy is absolutely right personally. This is the end game for people like the Kroenkes and the Glazers.

speedy

Klaus wrote:
I think Quincy is absolutely right personally. This is the end game for people like the Kroenkes and the Glazers.

Kronkes and Glazers don't put money in anyway. their end game looks a lot like their start game.

Klaus

Yes, that was the point. This is going to be fantastic for them from a financial point of view.

Claudius

It makes no sense. The reason they have the Super League is because they are no longer beholden to Uefa in this one competition. A few things happen

they can negotiate bigger deals for their own teams because they are all guaranteed super league revenue into perpetuity. None of this risk of falling into Europa. So no more Nike and Chevrolet claw backs
they maximize euro revenues. It’s a minimum of 14 massive games every season for them.
they are in charge of negotiating extra deals. Now on top of the TV deal, they can go negotiate a Facebook or Twitter deal for shorts.

This is about making significantly more money. It is not about taking the same money and holding spending still. You will see revenues increase significantly, and you will see massive player deals come out of this. Even after all of that, they’ll still be much better off.

jones

Claudius wrote:
It makes no sense. The reason they have the Super League is because they are no longer beholden to Uefa in this one competition. A few things happen

they can negotiate bigger deals for their own teams because they are all guaranteed super league revenue into perpetuity. None of this risk of falling into Europa. So no more Nike and Chevrolet claw backs

they maximize euro revenues. It’s a minimum of 14 massive games every season for them.

they are in charge of negotiating extra deals. Now on top of the TV deal, they can go negotiate a Facebook or Twitter deal for shorts.

This is about making significantly more money. It is not about taking the same money and holding spending still. You will see revenues increase significantly, and you will see massive player deals come out of this. Even after all of that, they’ll still be much better off.

I think you're misunderstanding Quincy. All of what you're saying is possible without Kroenke bothering to spend significant money. He might even pay higher wages but compared to the soaring revenues (and the competition) the revenue/wage ratio is most likely going down

Claudius

The point of this is for these Americans to maximise their ROI. Of course they don’t plan on putting a cent in. None of them are charities. They come from a country where the cities usually pay for their teams’ stadiums. They are used to making boatloads of money.

This is the end game. First the Premier League. Then Americans flooding in. Now this

Qwiss

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Why? We no longer need good players to get there, Kroenke can just pocket the cash and call it a day.

I doubt it. I think he'll just do what he does now and let us spend what we make. As long as his investments value sky rockets he'll be a happy evil billionaire.

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius wrote:
The point of this is for these Americans to maximise their ROI. Of course they don’t plan on putting a cent in. None of them are charities. They come from a country where the cities usually pay for their teams’ stadiums. They are used to making boatloads of money.

This is the end game. First the Premier League. Then Americans flooding in. Now this

How would they maximise their ROI by letting Arsenal sign good players instead of pocketing the extra income? Outside of the ESL you still need to invest to maximise your profits because a club that goes down doesn't make money. In the ESL you could be dead last every season and still get rich. We agree that the goal for Kroenke is to maximise their ROI, so where is the incentive to spend?

Clrnc

And the fact there's no consequences in the league at all, founding members will always stay in the league. Why bother investing more when we can finish 20th and still stay up?

Not to mention we are likely not to be able to play in European competition and domestic ones.

speedy

Clrnc wrote:
And the fact there's no consequences in the league at all, founding members will always stay in the league. Why bother investing more when we can finish 20th and still stay up?

Not to mention we are likely not to be able to play in European competition and domestic ones.

The prem isnt gong to kick anyone out quite the opposite they make the teams sign an agreeent to stay in the prem and not set up there own league.

Teams doing well in ESL with make shed loads more money than the ones at the bottom.

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