Quincy Abeyie wrote:Ah. Ultimate team and Pro Clubs with a couple of friends. At least the latter feels slightly social, but FUT doesn't even have that.
FUT is toxic as fuck. Its why I just avoided FIFA 20 and haven't bought it at launch in years. It was really fun at the start but now its too monetised, too competitive and pretty much zero fun. Plus its extremely addictive and uses all the trappings of gambling to keep you hooked.
HomeSteak wrote:I learned Java...so some good came of this lockdown.
Meatwad wrote:now i have time to grow and care for my weed plants.
Do you grow them outside or inside? When I used to live in the states, I rented a room from this old man that grew weed, best side job I ever had. 16$ an hour to work with him when it came time to pick it :drool:. Coming from a country that has weed listed as high risk drug going to the states was a lot of fun.
I always said I'll grow some at home, maybe that can be my project now.
in a greenhouse.
Ramadan Mubarak to those observing. Hope you're in someway close to dear ones. A very very tough time to fast here in London with 20 hour cycles out the gate and COVID-19 ominous. Some of my older relatives will pen it for the Autumn to make them up.
Dearly hoping clerics show some unity and encourage people not to frequent mosques, and that people err on the side of caution.
Pepe LeFrits wrote:Qwiss! wrote:Yep its getting me through the isolation.
The AI is so bad it renders the whole game pointless for me.
I think it's fun to play deity and change up starting civ.
it's a shame the AI are so easy, but online multiplayer with friends and the ability to get yourself out of a bad situation make this one of the most fun Civs ever for me.
Trying to spend less time on the screen so am trying to read more instead.
Just finishing up on The Road and about to start 1984.
I loved the road. One of my faves. And 1984 is, of course, a classic.
I also quickly decided to turn towards books, in particular classics I've been meaning to read for years but never got around to them for one reason or another. I've now read The Catcher In The Rye, Markens Grøde, and I'm about a third of the way through Crime And Punishment.
Trying to read the book on the 1918 flu. Quarter way through and he's still laying out the back story on hospitals, the physicians and their histories etc.
Jens wrote:I also quickly decided to turn towards books, in particular classics I've been meaning to read for years but never got around to them for one reason or another. I've now read The Catcher In The Rye, Markens Grøde, and I'm about a third of the way through Crime And Punishment.
Markens Grøde is one of the worst books I've ever read, and I like Hamsun.
Jens wrote:I also quickly decided to turn towards books, in particular classics I've been meaning to read for years but never got around to them for one reason or another. I've now read The Catcher In The Rye, Markens Grøde, and I'm about a third of the way through Crime And Punishment.
LOL. That's me. Still on Dickens' Great Expectations.
Had never read it before. I am finding it quite relevant for our times with the present class struggles we find ourselves entrenched in. This is a 200 year old problem we are no closer to solving. I discount the days conquering kings
This stood out for me
‘Elon Musk’ wrote:“I think the people are going to be very angry about this and are very angry. It’s like somebody should be, if somebody wants to stay in the house that’s great, they should be allowed to stay in the house and they should not be compelled to leave. But to say that they cannot leave their house, and they will be arrested if they do, this is fascist. This is not democratic. This is not freedom. Give people back their goddamn freedom.”
So is he going to give his workers a choice to stay home if they don’t feel safe in his factory?
But to say that they cannot
leave their housejoin a union, and they will be arrested if they do, this is fascist. This is not democratic. This is not freedom. Give people back their goddamn freedom.
Fixed it for you Elon …
He's not entirely wrong to be fair, even though he's got a typical flagwaving 'Murica way of going about it. It's all good locking down society for two weeks, but what about a month from now? Or two? How long is it supposed to be going on? What are the longterm impacts? How will people survive down the road?
This forum might not be a great place to ask these questions because I get the feeling that a lot of people who post here don't struggle with money and have the kind of jobs that could easily be handled from home with a phone and a laptop, but for a lot of working class people, losing their businesses, jobs and income will end up ruining their lives completely. Mounting debt will bury their children and force them to sell their family homes.
Governments have a responsibility to address these kind of questions honestly and come up with solutions, instead of telling people that they're assholes who deserve to be jailed or lit up by flamethrowers if they go outside. Not to Elon fucking Musk, but to the workers slaving under people like him to make ends meet.
I would say America should get rid of him, but we don't want him in South Africa.
Are you working class Klaus? Do you have working class people in your family? Do you count working class people amongst your close friends (if you would even think to label friends like that)? Do you live in a working class area?
The assumption that we are not capable of discussing exiting lockdown with an open mind due to our "privileged" job status assumes that within our families or circle of friends we don't have people who are suffering massively and potentially ruinously because of this lockdown.
The irony is that our local SF and independent left elected reps are the most hardline in pushing businesses to shut and not require their employees to present themselves for work, even though these businesses are steeped in a culture of H&S compliance and are turning cartwheels to implement safe distancing and sanitary measures.
I'm not sure Elon has the same incentives as you, Klaus.
I agree with you, by the way that lockdowns have to be lifted. But I would rather listen to considered public health advise, even if experts in the field might differ on approach for how to stage it. Musk's motivations are political and economic, and I think that we need to put life first, especially if we can afford to fund it.
The conversation would be different in a much poorer country. In South Africa, people lined up for 4km in a Joburg suburb yesterday for food parcels. And that's because South Africa is trying to fund. Even then, it's difficult to see people having to stay in the sun all day because the economy has ground to a halt. The rest of Africa should not even consider extended lockdowns. They don't have the money or capabilities to feed or fund their populations. Those countries are 90% SME and informal. Folks will need to work at risk of getting sick.
It does feel like US shit the bed a bit. They could've gone aggressive shut down like New Zealand or China, and been preparing for easing restrictions. Or they could've kept it light all along like Sweden. But they've gone for a messy hybrid with lots of front loaded deaths they might have to explain in 2021.
Klaus wrote:He's not entirely wrong to be fair, even though he's got a typical flagwaving 'Murica way of going about it. It's all good locking down society for two weeks, but what about a month from now? Or two? How long is it supposed to be going on? What are the longterm impacts? How will people survive down the road?
This forum might not be a great place to ask these questions because I get the feeling that a lot of people who post here don't struggle with money and have the kind of jobs that could easily be handled from home with a phone and a laptop, but for a lot of working class people, losing their businesses, jobs and income will end up ruining their lives completely. Mounting debt will bury their children and force them to sell their family homes.
Governments have a responsibility to address these kind of questions honestly and come up with solutions, instead of telling people that they're assholes who deserve to be jailed or lit up by flamethrowers if they go outside. Not to Elon fucking Musk, but to the workers slaving under people like him to make ends meet.
The rents,evictions, mortgages etc have been frozen. The conservative leaning nurses I know are seething that the unemployed are making more money now with the stimulus checks and all than the nurses. The narrative on Fox and right wing media has already started about that for the last couple of days.
I suspect it'll be chaos once things start opening up though. People will be expected to pay up for the past month or so.
y va marquer wrote:Are you working class Klaus? Do you have working class people in your family? Do you count working class people amongst your close friends (if you would even think to label friends like that)? Do you live in a working class area?
Yes to all questions, except I guess I’m permanently unemployed now.
I didn’t say people aren’t capable of empathising with others, but empathy doesn’t cost anything. It's just a simple observation that there is a strong discrepancy between the discourse I’m seeing on social media and forums and the one I’m seeing among friends and family who earn a modest paycheck and live outside big towns or cities.
We don't even have a lockdown here, and the only people I know who are going to be okay six months from now are those who are higher educated and working as economists or academics. I know people who have attempted suicide because they’re going to lose their family homes, and we have a pretty wide welfare net here. I can't begin to imagine what it's like living somewhere with stricter measures and less social security right now. I'm sparing a thought for those people. That a moron like Elon Musk is among those voicing opposition towards extensive lockdowns for his own disingenuous reasons doesn't change the fact that there should be a much bigger debate about this, rooted in research and science rather than political point-scoring.
