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#Coronavirus

jones

Ricky1985 wrote:
It's already increasing again in China:

[Twitter]

Long term some of the economists I'm reading think this whole situation wont really lead to an ecological improvement, mostly because of this oil crisis that's unfolding in the shadow of the pandemic right now.

lorddulaarsenal

I hope to god it doesn’t get out of hand in Africa

Bloody nightmare this

Klaus

y va marquer wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
I've resigned myself to a long haul. I think it'll ease up slightly in 3 months or so but it'll be a long time until things get back to normal completely

Yep, absolutely nothing we can do but hang in there.
I'm envisaging that as time goes by there will be some interesting and creative ideas on how to get people out and socialising at a distance.

I've gone full on old school and I'm listening to radio most of the day, I find it more sociable and relaxing, more real and community orientated for some reason. I turn it off around now though when the "news" shows come on.

Since the subject of radio was brought up: Have you ever listened to old school radio dramas, Y va? Virtually all of them are in the public domain nowadays and cost nothing to download. They have that certain feel to them that you don't quite get from anything else. They replaced podcasts for me a long time ago as the travelling alternative to music.

Here's a short article with some suggestions: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/saltzman/2016/03/25/webs-best-kept-secret-thousands-free-classic-radio-dramas/82204502/

Good list of some radio dramas rereleased in podcast form: https://www.podchaser.com/lists/vintage-radio-shows-aka-old-school-audio-drama-107ZzndWPm

Orson Welles' productions from The Mercury Theatre On The Air are incredibly entertaining: https://www.mercurytheatre.info/

Leonard Nimoy and John de Lancie (who played Q on Star Trek: The Next Generation) did a project together in the early 00s too called Alien Voices where they turned a few golden age scifi stories into radio plays. These still cost a few bucks to download but they're really amazing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Voices

Mirth

Tim Martin's such a moron, they've just announced pubs, cafes, bars, gyms etc have all been shut now.

Tbh I suspect they kept it open for a week so that they didn't have to deal with sorting out workers pay more than anything. Chancellor's now updating on worker pay.

Ricky1985

Finally they've closed the damn pubs, clubs, and the like!

Mirth

A Tory government is offering to pay 80% of wages up to £2,500

Never thought I'd see the day.

Good move though.

Clrnc

Don't get why it's so obvious how the virus is going to spread and they don't do these measures before it gets worse. They could have done all of these much earlier. Why wait?

Ricky1985

Mirth wrote:
A Tory government is offering to pay 80% of wages up to £2,500

Never thought I'd see the day.

Good move though.

I'd like to see the details, but it is pretty remarkable tbh.

jones

The concept of short time does exist in the UK doesnt it?

Not saying this isn't extraordinary just asking in general.

Clrnc

Guy talk some sense

Mirth

Looks like we're pretty much doing what France did last week. Country is going to be in lockdown by the end of next week.

Mirth

I actually feel like this daily update is counter productive. A clear weekly or bi weekly conference would be easier for people to digest.

KingslandBarge

Wish it could have been announced earlier. I know friends that have been laid off in the last 5 days. This could have saved some I am sure.

Mirth

jones wrote:
The concept of short time does exist in the UK doesnt it?

Do you mean zero-hour contracts/gig economy workers? Yes.

What they've done - which is good - is that they've linked it to PAYE which should also capture some zero hour contracts. I suspect there will still be a few that slip through, mainly the ones that declare themselves to be self-employed for tax benefits or freelance workers.

Mirth

KingslandBarge wrote:
Wish it could have been announced earlier. I know friends that have been laid off in the last 5 days. This could have saved some I am sure.

Genuinely sorry to hear about your friends but fuck those businesses that can't even cope with a couple of weeks of uncertainty before pulling the trigger.

Anyway:

Treasury tell me wage subsidy WILL apply to firms where bosses have already had to layoff workers in crisis - as long they're brought back into workforce and instead granted leave of absence. Workers in this situation might want to get on the phone.

KingslandBarge

Agreed. Don't know much about PR and events management specializations but could imagine them being hard hit and drastic in reaction. They're two friends and their quite young in their early 20s. One of them was on a fixed-contract and yeah she's going to go see if she can get her role back next week. The other is a web designer.

@[deleted] the radio dramas are a great call, thanks for sharing! I wonder if they're any good radio-broadcasted crime mysteries knocking about that people can interact to solve (fictional or open cases). That would interest me.

jones

Mirth wrote:
jones wrote:
The concept of short time does exist in the UK doesnt it?

Do you mean zero-hour contracts/gig economy workers? Yes.

No almost the opposite

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-time_working

It's a measure for companies and employees during crises where the state jumps in to pay wages when work is cancelled. Usually around 2/3 of nominal wages

Jens

Klaus wrote:
Since the subject of radio was brought up: Have you ever listened to old school radio dramas, Y va? Virtually all of them are in the public domain nowadays and cost nothing to download. They have that certain feel to them that you don't quite get from anything else. They replaced podcasts for me a long time ago as the travelling alternative to music.

Here's a short article with some suggestions: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/saltzman/2016/03/25/webs-best-kept-secret-thousands-free-classic-radio-dramas/82204502/

Good list of some radio dramas rereleased in podcast form: https://www.podchaser.com/lists/vintage-radio-shows-aka-old-school-audio-drama-107ZzndWPm

Orson Welles' productions from The Mercury Theatre On The Air are incredibly entertaining: https://www.mercurytheatre.info/

Leonard Nimoy and John de Lancie (who played Q on Star Trek: The Next Generation) did a project together in the early 00s too called Alien Voices where they turned a few golden age scifi stories into radio plays. These still cost a few bucks to download but they're really amazing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Voices

I grew up on a bunch of Norwegian ones on cassette my father had taped. Absolutely loved them, some of them I'm sure I've listened to twenty times over. Will check these out for sure.

Klaus

Clrnc wrote:

Guy talk some sense

How have we reached the point where Gary fucking Neville is being quoted as an expert on pandemics? 😆

Keep this trash out of the thread.

Klaus

KingslandBarge wrote:
@[deleted] the radio dramas are a great call, thanks for sharing! I wonder if they're any good radio-broadcasted crime mysteries knocking about that people can interact to solve (fictional or open cases). That would interest me.

I'm not sure! Have a look at Old Time Radio over at the Internet Archive though, they have a lot of stuff: https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

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