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Autumn tran!

Gazza M

Klaus wrote:
If anyone could guarantee me that Upamecano will be a third of the player Sol was I'd be down with spending all our money on him. Can't believe how underrated Campbell is these days. Best defender to ever set a foot in the Premiership bar none.

sol seems to be the forgotten man when people talk about great english CBs. the modern fixation with ability on the ball has skewed perception about him.

it's a real kick in the knackers that we didn't convince sancho to come here, and now he's well out of our price range. 100m for him now is like united paying 27m for an 18 year old rooney - no brainer really. he's going to land at one of the other big english clubs next season and we'll be sitting here like cucks yet again

Claudius

So what? We have so much talent on the wings. With Nelson, Pépé, Saka and maybe Martinelli, I’m not sure that I’m going to cry myself to sleep over missing out on Sancho and seeing United pay £120m for him in the summer.

Let’s focus on our needs. 1-2 attacking mods and a central defender if Mari fails.

Ray

I prefer we went for someone a bit more agile than Upamecano. The stocky build reminds me of Mustafi..

KingslandBarge

How would you feel about someone like John Stones?

mentalvortex

I would rather play Holding week in week out or try to integrate Mavropanos.

Klaus

Guardiola bet big on Stones, had him earmarked as his next big defender, literally gave him years of opportunities, and he still couldn't straighten him out. I don't think there's much hope for anyone else either. Stones is just a bunch of good attributes bundled with a subpar brain stuck in a 2/10 body. Infuriatingly fragile player in addition to being shit at almost anything except passing the ball. I'd rather bring back Kyle Bartley.

goon

I know he's injured but honestly, is Stones really any better than Chambers? We need a centre back that will walk right into the starting XI as a clear improvement, otherwise there's no point.

KingslandBarge

Yeah personally don't think Stones is markedly better as a RCB than Chambers, if it all. But he does have pace, and is relatively quick from a starting position. Only reason I mentioned him, and whether we want to couple Saliba/Holding with someone thats foremost rapid.

Holding of course I have huge hopes for at LCB. Shame he'll be in a tough spot when Saliba comes through.

QuincyAbeyie

When Leicester sell Soyuncu for big money they'll pick Stones up for cheap and somehow make him look world class.

Ray

Saliba is a RCB though. TBH someone like Kimpembe would be ideal to partner with Saliba.

KingslandBarge

Ah thats what I once thought too. He's recently been playing LCB in a back three it seems? oh well.

Clrnc

Stones is beyond hope. Decision making and intelligence is something you can never teach a football player

Meatwad

Ray wrote:
I prefer we went for someone a bit more agile than Upamecano. The stocky build reminds me of Mustafi..

i don't like him all that much, i prefer his teammate Konate.

lorddulaarsenal

Hopefully Mari proves good but failing that Gabriel looks to be someone who’d partner Saliba well

Ricky1985

Kimpembe's defending is very dodgy in my opinion. He's quick and has good technique, but he's full of mistakes. I wouldn't want us spending our money on him.

I really like Gabriel Margalhães at Lille. French journalists said we made a move for him in January but Lille wanted €30m and we didn't have the money. Reports say he was our first choice before Pablo Mari and we'll move again for him in the summer. I saw a fair bit of him towards the end of last season when I was watching Pépé and he really has a lot going for him: 6'3", very quick, agressive in his marking, agile and quick on the the turn, good left foot, doesn't dive in or do daft things. Hope he really is on the list.

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Meatwad

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:
Upamecano won’t hit the heights Sol did

sol campbell had long legs and a short torso, so at 6'2" he had the legs of someone taller. these arsenal defenders that drive me insane are the opposite, with their short legs.

lorddulaarsenal

Sol was so powerful- not seen a defender as physically strong as him in his prime bar maybe Jaap Stam

Meatwad

a powerhouse. when i saw him run i always imagined that the ground shook underneath him.

IBL

Had a hell of a slide, too

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Meatwad wrote:
a powerhouse. when i saw him run i always imagined that the ground shook underneath him.

Remember how he caught up with/outpaced Gareth Bale in his second stint with us aged 35?

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