Was reading a description of him as being a 'late bloomer' however I don't see it as perhaps being that 'bad', as he's 26 and just had a break out season with Flamengo and named in the Brasileirao Team of the Year, and played a lead role in their defence in winning the Copa and League Double. He may not be pretty but he would seem to be effective in a league with plenty of players with flair on the ball, and didn't get embarrassed when up against LFC in the Super Cup Final.