Coombs wrote: They do, and we don't. Torreira is part of that problem, and needs to be offset by someone. He also needs to sort out his touch, looked like passing into a pile of cinderblocks at times. Honestly, unless he becomes technically world class, I don't see the point of him long term. He's basically a utility man with limited utility.
They do, and we don't. Torreira is part of that problem, and needs to be offset by someone. He also needs to sort out his touch, looked like passing into a pile of cinderblocks at times. Honestly, unless he becomes technically world class, I don't see the point of him long term. He's basically a utility man with limited utility.
I think Torreira is ok and a useful player to have but he's not a DM and despite his effort and a decent game overall yesterday he is too easily bullied as seen on the goal we conceded.
Qwiss! wrote: Coombs wrote: They do, and we don't. Torreira is part of that problem, and needs to be offset by someone. He also needs to sort out his touch, looked like passing into a pile of cinderblocks at times. Honestly, unless he becomes technically world class, I don't see the point of him long term. He's basically a utility man with limited utility. I think Torreira is ok and a useful player to have but he's not a DM and despite his effort and a decent game overall yesterday he is too easily bullied as seen on the goal we conceded.
You'd think he'd be up for it physically having made his mark in the role in Serie A and for Uruguay.
Clrnc wrote: The players all know their roles and positionally very disciplined. Like whenever Xhaka drops back for goalkicks you see AMN going into the middle to form a double pivot. Our average positions is very structured too.
The players all know their roles and positionally very disciplined. Like whenever Xhaka drops back for goalkicks you see AMN going into the middle to form a double pivot. Our average positions is very structured too.
Can’t believe some wanker tagged Unai Emery on this post. Peak petty. It’s good to see the improved structure. And the bursts of connected build up play. Plus the more compact defending. It’s coming together slowly.
It's also the difference between a team that were on a long winning run when they played us and are 2nd in the league and a team who hadn't had a shot on target for 2 games before scoring against us and are 16th in the league. It's not exactly apples to apples.
It’s also comparing two different formations. We’ve played the 4-2-3-1 under Emery, why not choose one of those games if you’re going to make that comparison?
That being said, our shape and balance was so bad under Emery that it’s bound to improve.
that's actually a ridiculously structured average position, I wouldn't necessarily expect that from any team. It's normal to have overlapping positions.
The bunching up of the forward line was one of the hallmarks of the Emery team but that's not necessarily a bad thing (although it often was).
banduan wrote: that's actually a ridiculously structured average position, I wouldn't necessarily expect that from any team. It's normal to have overlapping positions. The bunching up of the forward line was one of the hallmarks of the Emery team but that's not necessarily a bad thing (although it often was).
Our positioning looks much the same after the game today v CFC. https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1376282/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2019-2020-Arsenal-Chelsea
EDIT - we also saw plenty of overlapping positions in the midfield and attack under AW.
It's reminiscent of peps belief in disciplined positioning when attacking
Gazza M wrote: banduan wrote: that's actually a ridiculously structured average position, I wouldn't necessarily expect that from any team. It's normal to have overlapping positions. The bunching up of the forward line was one of the hallmarks of the Emery team but that's not necessarily a bad thing (although it often was). It's reminiscent of peps belief in disciplined positioning when attacking
But only until they reach the final 3rd, then like Cruyff he allows them carte blanche to make their own decisions based upon the circumstances.
They don't have total carte blanche in the final third, there's still structure there aimed at overloading and stretching the opponent
Gazza M wrote: They don't have total carte blanche in the final third, there's still structure there aimed at overloading and stretching the opponent
My understanding was they looked to do this in the build up in the opposition half before they reached the final 3rd, or at least this was the case at Barca.
