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Official: Mikel Arteta is the new Arsenal manager.

flobaba

Mirth doesn't bode well for him that his expected deal closing rate xDCR has been less than 0.65 for the last 2 quarters.

Don Pacifico

goon I think the main differential you allude to there is that Edu and Arteta at least worked in collaboration rather than Raul, Sven and Unai all being at odds with each other. Doesn't mean it was necessarily perfect but evidence of the basic requirement of just collaborating with each other.

Gazza M

quite pointed language by ornstein there

Burnwinter

Gazza M Ornstein continuing his mini campaign against Arteta after his "too much influence" comments of the other day. I can't imagine this goes unnoticed, I wonder what's paying for it, extra clicks for a bit of an Arsenal agenda?

Qwiss

Gazza M big shift in Ornsteins tone there. He's always been full on praise when it comes to Arteta. Something's up with him and the club. I noticed there was no round up of insider info on our transfer window from him after this summers window.

lorddulaarsenal

I don’t think Stan and Josh see it that way

Claudius

These guys are bored between transfer windows.

HomeSteak

Burnwinter he said that during the summer, it was just reposted now. Not that it matters that much. But it's not controversial, 5 years in, 720 mil spent ... you should win something. And it's not like we are asking for much, the league and CL are out of the questions, but a FA Cup or the League Cup now that some big guns are out already should be enough...and then next year push again for the title.

QuincyAbeyie

I didn't even know Ornstein had opinions about anything until now.

Don Pacifico

QuincyAbeyie yeah - you could see him checking the script he'd been given in that clip!

lorddulaarsenal

QuincyAbeyie Bot man isn’t he

Burnwinter

QuincyAbeyie Wasn't there some off the record forensic investigation into Ornstein's tweets around summer that found an implied attempt to influence specific contracts or transfers (he constantly posted and retweeted about certain players)? Can't recall the details but I don't think he's pure.

awooga83

lorddulaarsenal I mean I haven't been watching this Ornstein stuff but I don't think his point is unreasonable. I think that Arteta should be looking at delivering a trophy pretty soon. I felt this year personally given the time and investment behind him. It can't be open ended where we win nothing because that's pochettino Tottenham level outcome and the football we play is really not that enjoyable so it's only tolerable long-term if you actually deliver honours.

lorddulaarsenal

awooga83 I hear what you’re saying, but we are on a definite upward trajectory and although this season has had its issues we can still make it successful.

I don’t feel Arteta has completed his squad yet - I’d judge him fully once he has been able to make an addition to the attack or two

SimplyThePest

awooga83 100%. 5 years in and Klopp had won it all at Liverpool. The 'process' must deliver something meaningful soon-ish.

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter can't say I've heard about it, but could be true.

It's definitely true for Romano though. He's paid to hype up players, often by their agents.

Burnwinter

Maybe it's Romano I'm thinking of ...

Sicario2 - Tier 1

lorddulaarsenal

So you want to wait 10 years till we win a trophy?

Artera has been backed like no other Arsenal manager in history. 5 years and £800m later he needs to deliver. How do you know it wasn’t Artera’s idea to NOT sign an alternative to Havertz this past summer? His risk but he ultimately has to pay for it if we don’t win anything.

HomeSteak

lorddulaarsenal he was always able to make an addition or two in attack, he choose not to do so. Since he has been here he got 2 strikers lol. Jesus and Havertz, who let's be real, he got him here to play CM, he was just shit at it at the same time Jesus retired from football, so he got moved to striker.
Give Arteta 100 mil next summer and he will get a keeper, 2 left backs and a center back. Maybe extend Sterling

Gazza M

Sicario2 - Tier 1 or sign havetz at all. it's turned out better than i thought, but it wasn't cheap, and imo he wasn't bought to be a 9. that wasn't the grand plan, and it has stymied us making real progress in the forward positions. there's been a casual profligacy with how we spend that gives the impression we have 10 years to get this right.

JazzG

Sicario2 - Tier 1

So you want to wait 10 years till we win a trophy?

Artera has been backed like no other Arsenal manager in history. 5 years and £800m later he needs to deliver. How do you know it wasn’t Artera’s idea to NOT sign an alternative to Havertz this past summer? His risk but he ultimately has to pay for it if we don’t win anything.

How do you know it was Arteta idea not to sign a striker? How many strikers moved in the summer that would have improved on Havertz? We did try hard for Sesko early in the window and clearly that move wasn't possible.

Within 5 years we've gone from hopeless to fighting for league titles against basically football's version of Lance Armstrong. We are getting there but our fans need to show some composure and hold our nerve, our fanbase has a nervous breakdown on every blip we have.

Don Pacifico

SimplyThePest I don't think Liverpool as a club and a squad is comparable to what we were like when Arteta took over.

lorddulaarsenal

It’s relative - others at the top have spent significantly over the years starting from a higher base.

I also don’t believe there is a better manager out there for us.

lorddulaarsenal

HomeSteak had he added to the attack he wouldn’t have made the signings that have improved our defence.

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