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  • Official: Mikel Arteta is the new Arsenal manager.

goon wrote:
Klaus wrote:

I reckon it's why we need guys like Eddie and Nelson on the pitch.

Above all it's why we need to skip that extra defender and put on an attacking midfielder though. Having your only striker drop into midfield to pick up the ball is bottom of the table stuff, and it leaves you with a horseshoe-sized attack where no one's ever in the box.

The tactic itself is one thing but it becomes a big problem when you place so much emphasis on Laca who has been so hit and miss, mostly miss, this season.

If we were going to play this formation I'd like to have seen us go with something like this:

Nelson - Auba - Pepe

Saka - Xhaka - Ceballos - AMN

You could then ask Nelson and Pepe to fill that void in front of the centre mids while Saka and AMN provide the width. It's all a little too one dimensional at the moment.

I don't think Laca is the issue as much as the CMs.  ATM Ceballos is our best CM but Xhaka requires a partner to chaperone in any 2 CM configuration.  He may be better at DM in a purely holding role similar to how we defended v LFC & MC, but I'd rather sell him and get someone who is better suited.

Not so much about Arteta as opposed to the size of the task he has, and some pretty damning comments regarding the club/new structure.

https://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-2019-20-season-losers-rodgers-guardiola-watford-arsenal
Arsenal
It remains to be seen just how much time was wasted with the unimaginative appointment of Unai Emery in May 2018 – Mikel Arteta is no guarantee of progression – but Arsenal are at an awkward crossroads.

Emery, and the issues he and Arsene Wenger allowed to fester, left an unbalanced squad behind in north London. If the Spaniard is right in claiming that Arsenal were considering renewing his contract last summer, that is as damning an indictment as any on how far standards have fallen and how desperately the hierarchy will cling to any form of positive.

Arteta has already changed that and introduced a new culture of unity, humility and sacrifice for the team. He might succeed on the pitch. He might not. But let it never be forgotten that Arsenal put themselves in a position where they left an interim manager in charge for almost an entire month with no support before calling on an inexperienced coach to replace him and rescue them. The long journey back is underway.

https://www.football365.com/news/f365s-premier-league-expectation-table-man-utd-tenth-arsenal-bottom
20) Arsenal
Arsene Wenger only left Arsenal two seasons ago – Christ, that’s dragged. Since then they have spent over £200million and have nothing to show for it. Mikel Arteta has impressively righted a sinking ship by filling in numerous holes in a hull that had been peppered by insubordination under Unai Emery. But this was their lowest league finish since 1995 in a season in which they were strongly tipped to qualify for the Champions League. Even under the guidance of Arteta, expectations won’t be so high next season; he’s got a hell of a lot of work to do.

Claudius wrote:
Klaus wrote:

I reckon it's why we need guys like Eddie and Nelson on the pitch.

Above all it's why we need to skip that extra defender and put on an attacking midfielder though. Having your only striker drop into midfield to pick up the ball is bottom of the table stuff, and it leaves you with a horseshoe-sized attack where no one's ever in the box.

On Buendía, I’m seeing that he has one of the highest percentages of forward passes. And still achieves a good pass completion rate. That sort of ambition could be useful on a viscous team such as ours.

Signing this guy might require some rejigging. If we go 433, potentially you play him at 8, Tierney atleft back, Saka at left wing, and Aubameyang at 9. It would mean no target man, unless Saka sits.

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/ZT031QDUx06biDRUTOiGyg/Show/Six-of-the-Best-Buendia-leads-top-rated-players-relegated-from-the-Premier-League
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Are there any Buendia links or it us thinking he'd be a good fit? He is the kind of player we need to be signing in this rebuild. We need more technique in our XI and he'd be a good fit for the midfield three.

We'd also need one more highly technical player in our front three because with Pepe, Laca, Auba, Nketiah, Nelson and Saka that is severely lacking. Someone press resistant who can beat a man.

Tambourine Man wrote:

Are there any Buendia links or it us thinking he'd be a good fit? He is the kind of player we need to be signing in this rebuild. We need more technique in our XI and he'd be a good fit for the midfield three.

We'd also need one more highly technical player in our front three because with Pepe, Laca, Auba, Nketiah, Nelson and Saka that is severely lacking. Someone press resistant who can beat a man.

If Brentford miss promotion I'd look at Benrahma.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/137021/Show/Sa%C3%AFd-Benrahma

He'd be great and we need to gamble this summer on relegated/lower league talents. Buendia and Benrahma could go either way but we need to take a chance on them/guys like them.

I just want us to be entertaining on the ball again. Never did I think that I'd long for the days of Hleb and the like.

Hleb, Rosicky and Fabregas gave me the best post invincibles football. It’s a pity their period together was so short-lived.

Claudius wrote:

Hleb, Rosicky and Fabregas gave me the best post invincibles football. It’s a pity their period together was so short-lived.

Also the last time we finished less then 10 points from the title?

Anzac wrote:
Claudius wrote:

Hleb, Rosicky and Fabregas gave me the best post invincibles football. It’s a pity their period together was so short-lived.

Also the last time we finished less then 10 points from the title?

13/14

Our recent title challenges were fine but that’s the last time I felt a movement in my loins whenever the Arsenal played. I pray that Arteta gives us dreamy football again.

Mirth wrote:
Anzac wrote:

Also the last time we finished less then 10 points from the title?

13/14

That year was the worst. Depended on half a season of super human Ramsey form and then once that's gone we got thrashed upside down in every single big game we played. Became a thorough laughing joke

Claudius wrote:

Hleb, Rosicky and Fabregas gave me the best post invincibles football. It’s a pity their period together was so short-lived.

Also having that lovely balance by having the likes of Sagna, Toure, Lehmann and Gilberto to help defend and freeing up that amazing freedom of operation.

Clrnc wrote:
Mirth wrote:

13/14

That year was the worst. Depended on half a season of super human Ramsey form and then once that's gone we got thrashed upside down in every single big game we played. Became a thorough laughing joke

Still got 79 points and won an FA Cup though. Who knows what might have happened if Ozil and Ramsey didn't pick up injuries.

May be a bit premature, but what is the general sentiment on Arteta?

Wanted to get this question in before the FA cup, come what may.

Personally, I'm underwhelmed so far, but appreciate that there are mitigating circumstances. The lack of attacking verve is extremely worrying.

I think the jury still has to be out, far too early to make a decision one way or another.

He's convinced the players of his vision which is impressive as both the vets (Auba/Xhaka) and youngsters (Saka/Tierny/Ceballos) seem invested. That wasn't easy, especially when it mean casting aside players like Ozil, Gujendouzi, Sokratis, etc.

But our performances haven't improved much, and that is of concern. That can be quickly forgiven with a win vs Chelsea, but I think they're favorites by quite a bit based on their form.

I'd say he's done enough for me, but in no way should he be feeling safe as a result of his initial improvements.

Gut feeling is he will be a very good appointment, on and off the pitch. But a lot depends on how good a squad builder he is, needs to know exactly what he wants and needs.

Captain wrote:

Personally, I'm underwhelmed so far, but appreciate that there are mitigating circumstances. The lack of attacking verve is extremely worrying.

Same. I'm disappointed that we've settled into such a negative formation, necessary though it may have been in the short term. We're lacking creativity under the best of circumstances after Emery's purge, and fielding five defenders and no attacking midfielders in every game doesn't really help. Watford's attacking combinations were widely superior to ours the other night, and they were relegated.

Think he's spot on giving the kids so many chances obviously, but Emery did the same thing to be fair. I think it's just obvious that they're good enough, or will be soon enough.

The final feels like a defining moment. Appreciate it might be coming too soon but it's coming nonetheless. We have to win this one.

Can't see us winning the final unless we have some sort of defensive miracle. No pressure on Chelsea either so they will go at us all game.

Why does everyone keep talking as if it’s a freebie for Chelsea? I’m guessing they still want to win the fucking FA Cup 😆

It’s like saying City have no pressure to win the CL now that they’ve qualified for next seasons CL through the league.

Chelsea love winning trophies. They got in the Europa league, and won it while finishing 3rd in the league. They’d enjoy collecting more silverware and telling the narrative that they’re the big club in London. Lampard also would want his first trophy badly.