Official: Mikel Arteta is the new Arsenal manager.
lorddulaarsenal Not sure what to make of that?
Is it the Kroenkes? Though why spend on Merino and Cala if funds are limited?
We've dominated Man Utd, literally created chance after chance and so he isn't going to come out and throw his players under the bus.
It is like it is in the DNA of the club, we had this under Wenger as well fucking chance after chance we create and still can't score! I mean look at the chances yesterday, those players score them 8 or 9 times out 10. Unbelievable really.
Havertz must have missed 3 xG on his own in the last few games.
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Havertz is trash. Chelsea fans I (unfortunately) know are pissing themselves laughing.
Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert They weren't laughing a few months back were they? Come on man, he has his issues but shit like this can happen.
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Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Havertz is trash.
Not really. He's not worth what we paid, he's not worth his wages but he's not trash either. He's ok. He'd be a great rotational player. Someone who ironically you'd call in for these cup games, someone to come on in midfield or up front in the last 10-20 minutes of a big game, etc He's useful its just that his current status in the squad is above where it should be. He should be the Merino of the central attack.
Gazza M I can understand this perspective but it has to accompanied by proper acknowledgment that at three moment what he's built is missing key components. I've seen some views of but for the bad luck we'd actually be fine but we've still had major issues when I'm the good seasons, goal scoring has been a long term issue despite racking up some big wins. It can't be just go again a you were. If he's not capable of acknowledging the flaws we've had then we should be looking for someone else.
Ok fine, it's true Havertz has value as a squad player or clever tactical option.
I'm just beyond pissed at the club re our attacking recruitment. It's shocking and has been for years and years. I'm looking for easy scapegoats.
Qwiss I agree with this he's an okay squad player but it should have been 20m and much lower wages. That was a massive fuck up on valuation by us and that does seem to be impacting what we are able to do. Consistency is key for quality players so a nice run for 6 months doesn't change that his overall career in the prem pretty much shows his level and her isn't reliable as a goalscorer.
Gazza M Fully agree with this. This could be an indication of any number of things - that the last 2 years were an incredible purple patch, that Arteta doesn't have the resilience to come good when there's a little headwind of either injuries or bad refereeing, or that this is a one-off shitstorm from which he can come back with 1 good summer. Next season will give us the answer (assuming our hands are not tied behind our back financially) and that's the time to make the relevant judgment. If we are not up there and challenging in January 2026, I'd look to bring in another manager and give him the summer to recruit as he wants.
awooga83 I agree with this he's an okay squad player but it should have been 20m and much lower wages.
You genuinely can't get Havertz for £20m in today's football. And you can see why, granted his finishing has been average but his athleticism and work rate are outlandish for a man his size.
It's one of those cases where a Vlahović or Šeško shows up and certainly isn't transformational by comparison. I would still rather go in for a gun left winger who can play with Havertz.
There are reasons to believe things will get better next season. Liverpool should be slightly weaker or on par with their ageing squad and contract / retention issues, and City may be sanctioned.
You have to hope there is the next mile of investment from KSE, because in the last twenty years the league conditions have rarely looked like a better opportunity for Arsenal to win a couple of titles than they do now.
Nketiah moved for 30m.
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Burnwinter you are right you don't get Havertz for £20m but you should be able to get someone like that for £35-40m. £65m and worst of all his ludicrous wages was just bad business. We have a few too many cases in the squad of players we overpaid for even though they are decent players and according to reports and our apparent lack of signings this season its costing us in the market long term.
Burnwinter fair but if it was going to be 65m we should have walked that was never worth it.
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Burnwinter you're right, Havertz is worth more than £20m. In fact, with his age profile, CL winners medal and being a full fledged international international for Germany, he's automatically at least at the £40m-50m mark.
But the question is around the opportunity cost he represents.
FWIW I've defend Havertz a lot - he's a solid player but it doesn't look like we had a plan for him. I'd happily still keep him in the squad and bin Jesus
I really like Arteta, always have, I believe he will end up being a very successful manager. His football needs to evolve though. A lot of focus on his signings or lack thereof. There have been mitigating circumstances, injuries and ridiculous decisions again us. However, it is always a concern when a manager is unable to get his players to perform at the level they can despite the challenges. I think this team/ squad despite its shortcomings should be performing way better. He needs to bring the joy back in the football they are playing, more of the same will not work.